You're listening to Nakedly Examined Music, a podcast about songs and songwriters. My name is Mark Lintonmeyer.

This is a special end of year holiday sort of episode where you get to meet my audio editor for this podcast for the last year, Roger Heathers.

In fact, it was my first meeting over Zoom with this British gentleman,

and that pretty warm holiday music you're hearing right now

is a song called Guard Dogs from his upcoming music release, Upward Spiral.

Because, of course, somebody who edits podcasts is a musician and also a podcaster.

So we're going to learn a little bit about his show The Weekly Song Podcast.

And we talk musician and musician a little bit, but this is mostly a peek behind the curtain

into nakedly examined music where I get to talk with somebody who I know has listened to

all the episodes from the last year.

So we get a little into the technical stuff behind podcast production, how I select guests, some of the unique challenges that guests this year posed, and a lot of other stuff. Roger is a charming guy. I'm so happy to have him working on the show, and I'm so happy to have you here listening to the show. The headquarters for this podcast is Nakedly Examine Music.com. As always, if you want to support the show, go to patreon. podcast is nakedly examinedmusecumuic.com. As always, if you want to support

the show, go to patreon.com slash nakedly examined music. Let's go to the discussion.

Hello, I'm here with Roger. Hey, Roger. Hey, Mark. How's it going? Pretty good. So this is our

first time speaking, despite the fact that we've been

working together nearly a year. That is correct. It's kind of strange. I was thinking about this before we jumped on. We've spoken loads of times. I've heard your voice for hours at a time, having edited your shows. But it's almost a kind of parasycial relationship in a way where I'm now meeting you face to face and it's nice to meet you.

Well, and I didn't know until this week.

I, you know, should have at least searched your name.

I assumed if you had, you know, I knew you were a musician that if you had things out, it would be some some band name, but no, just search Roger Heathers on band camp on the streaming services and there many albums. Well, this is the thing. I mean, I think you can relate to this because you put out music onto your own name.

And, like, there is the temptation in there to be like a kind of sunkill moon or whatever, like, project name for a solo thing.

But, I mean, sometimes your own name just works just fine.

Or at least the fake name that I picked at some time when I thought that

having a hard to spell name mattered. Now I'm saying it constantly to the people such that

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