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Well, I decided that if everyone else was going to make up their own imaginary gender identity, I was going to make my own.

And so that is why I call myself a husbandosexual.

And a husband sexual means that I'm only attracted to men who

identify as my husband. Curious. And so that's it. And I mean, I think when you go into a marriage,

like I said a little bit earlier, you have to sort of decide that you're going to burn all your ship.

This is your host, Scott Bertram, and welcome to the Radio

Free Hillsdale Hour, part of the Hillsdale College Podcast Network. That was Peachie Keenan,

author of the new book, Domestic Extremist, a practical guide to winning the culture war. We'll talk

in-depth with her a little bit later on in the program about that book.

First, we're joined now by Dr. Matthew Spalding.

He is vice president of Washington Operations and dean of the Van Andal Graduate School of Government at Hillsdale in D.C.

Dr. Spalding, thanks so much for joining us.

Great to be with you, Scott.

Talking today about a piece you wrote a while ago in the Wall Street Journal, DEI spells death for the idea of a university. What's meant generally when we hear the

phrase DEI? That's a good question. And it's actually a very slippery term of art. This is

part of the problem with various aspects of modern liberalism.

They're actually quite difficult to define. It's become like, you know, kind of jello. You push

and it, moves and jiggles. But this, this has been going on for some time. It's been growing and

becoming something. And now it's become a identified thing, DEI, which stands for diversity, equity,

and inclusion. And it grows out of a modern rise within liberalism of a want to identify

people by groups or identity groups, especially around race and gender, but also start making distinctions between

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