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The Excerpt

Peace hangs in the balance as the second anniversary of 10-7 nears

The Excerpt

USA TODAY

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4.11.2K Ratings

🗓️ 5 October 2025

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

It’s been two years since the October 7th attacks on Israel. On that day in 2023, Hamas fighters killed 1,200 people and took hundreds hostage. In response, Israel unleashed a military campaign that has brought death and devastation to Gaza. Now President Trump, with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu by his side, has unveiled a 20-point plan he says will bring a lasting peace to the region. On Oct. 3, Hamas said it agrees to release all Israeli hostages, alive or dead, under the terms of Trump's plan and signalled readiness to immediately enter mediated negotiations to discuss the details. Michael Oren, a former Israeli ambassador to the U.S. and a military historian joins The Excerpt with my colleague USA TODAY Washington Bureau Chief Susan Page to discuss the new peace plan. 

* Note: This conversation was recorded on October 1, 2025.

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0:00.0

It's been two years since the October 7th attacks on Israel.

0:06.1

On that day in 2023, Hamas fighters killed 1,200 people and took hundreds hostage.

0:13.4

In response, Israel unleashed a military campaign that has brought death and devastation to Gaza.

0:19.6

Now President Trump, with Israeli Prime Minister

0:23.1

Benjamin Netanyahu by his side, has unveiled a 20-point plan, he says, will bring a lasting

0:29.4

peace to the region. On Friday afternoon, Hamas said it had agreed to release all Israeli hostages, Alibar dead,

0:39.7

under the terms, and signaled readiness to immediately enter mediated negotiations to discuss

0:46.2

the details, according to Reuters. Has a new path to peace been opened? Hello and welcome to

0:54.0

USA Today's The Excerpt. I'm Susan Page, Washington

0:57.7

Bureau Chief of USA Today. To discuss where we are and what challenges remain, I'm joined by Michael

1:04.2

Orrin, a former Israeli ambassador to the U.S. and a military historian. Thank you for being on

1:10.4

the excerpt, Ambassador Warren.

1:11.6

Good to be with you, Susan, and thank you for getting that right.

1:14.6

They often introduced me as America's ambassador to Israel.

1:18.6

You got it right, thank you.

1:20.6

President Trump called this one of the great days ever in civilization, potentially.

1:26.6

Do you think that this plan can live up

1:29.2

to that billing? Potentially, yes. But to understand the import of that, you've got to go back to

1:36.1

two years. You've got to go back to October 7, 2003, with Hamas's horrendous tax on Israel,

1:43.2

killed 1,200 Israelis, and took 250 plus hostages.

1:47.0

For the state of Israel, this was a profound, profound, emotional, physical, military shock.

1:53.0

The state of Israel was founded three years after the Holocaust with a promise that that would never happen again.

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