Welcome to indoctrination, a weekly conversation series about protecting yourself from systems of control.

I'm your host, Rachel Bernstein.

Thank you, as always, to all of the supporters of the podcast.

It is wonderful to get so much positive reinforcement and response.

And also to know that so many of you pass along the information about the podcast, to those

you know it could be helpful to and supportive of. And what I want to be able to do too is to let you know

that I appreciate all the people who have contacted me, who have said that they would like to

tell their story or they know someone who has a story that would be so beneficial to the

listeners. So please let me know if you would

like to tell your story. And please let me know if you know of others who have wanted to be

able to share what they know, what they've studied, what they've experienced, what they've

overcome with the listeners on the podcast. I want to be able to do also a thank you to all of the

supporters and also a special shout out to the people who give $10 and more a month to help

to keep this show on the air. There is a lot of room for people to be able to give more,

and it is still something that by and large, I pay for out of pocket. So anything really, really, really helps, and it keeps it going

and will ensure its future. Thank you to Alex, to Anne and Richard, to the Apostababe, Linda, to Brianna Camus,

Christina, David, Donna, Jessica, Katrina, Ken, to Lillian, to Ludwig, and to Maureen,

to Michael, to Mischlov, to Cynthia and Peter, to Scott, Sylvia, and Zofia.

Thank you, thank you. I couldn't do it without you.

Today on the show, you get to hear the second part of my conversation with Carrie Peck and Chris Peck, Gregory Peck's son and grandson.

It has been so nice getting to know Carrie and Chris and being able to hear from them.

They have a very strong legacy of social change and caring about not only caring about things,

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