Before you listen to this BBC podcast, I'd like to tell you why I love podcasting.

I'm Sasha Johansson, I'm an Assistant Commissioner for the BBC and I work on making podcasts.

My real passion is discovering unbelievable unheard stories and working with the biggest

stars who can really bring those stories to life.

I love the whole process of making podcasts from the spark of an idea to hearing the final

edit.

There's nothing like it.

What makes BBC podcast special is that we're working for you, so whatever we commission

has to reflect the things that you care about and love, wherever you are in the UK.

So if you like this BBC podcast, there's so much more to discover.

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Hi, thank you for listening yet again to another Midnight Meets podcast.

This is part of the Colour Mauritio Weeknights in 5, live 10, 30pm to 1am and then choose

that Midnight.

We settle in property with a cup of tea or a beer or a wine or whatever your tip of the

list.

Bring your own basically and we have a long-form chat with someone from music or sport or

film or TV or literature, that doesn't matter.

It's all about the conversation, really getting to know somebody over a longer period of time

rather than just soundbite.

And this particular Midnight Meets is another musical one as a solo artist, of course, a superstar

of the 80s and beyond, head albums, countless top 20 singles and number ones in the UK and

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