Was it lingering resentments because of the way things had gone down in the past?

Perhaps what bothered people before, just bothered them again.

And maybe they had a, shall I say, distorted or inaccurate sense of who they were.

Everybody in the band was so important to creating it.

But, you know, when you're in a car,

only one person can drive. You know, everybody can be in the same car, but you can't have everybody's hands on the wheel because ultimately people are pulling because they want to do different things.

Thank you so much for being here.

I'm so excited to have you.

I want to start with congratulations because I know it's the end of the road or the end of something,

but 3,000 shows.

If you look on the internet, there's actually no, there's so much information about Kiss

online, but there's actually no perfect there's so much information about Kiss Online,

but there's actually no perfect, you guys played this many shows.

I think it's about, I think it's between 3 and 3,500.

Some people say 2,900, but we'll go with the bigger number.

Let's go with the bigger number.

Bigger's always better.

That's amazing, though.

That's amazing.

It really is. It's mind-boggling because I still can remember the four of us first coming together.

Yeah.

And all of a sudden thinking, ah, this is it.

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