Hey, this is the moment. I'm Brian Cobbleman. Thanks for listening. My guest today is Paul Schrader.

And I hate when people say someone needs no introduction. It's an honor to give him a proper introduction. This is a man who wrote the movies

Taxi Driver American Jiggolo hardcore which is a huge movie in my life

Light a day touch another movie that I love,

which he also directed.

He directed the movie Autofocus,

which is another movie that I love,

affliction which won a bunch of awards. which is another movie that I love.

Affliction, which won a bunch of awards.

And his newest film first reformed just blew my fucking mind.

He also wrote a little movie called The Last Contition of Christ.

But his new movie is called movie called

First Reform Staring Ethan Hawk and has just come out and I watched the film last night and it

destroyed me in the very best way that cinema can.

Paul Schrader thanks for being here.

Thank you Brian.

So I just want to start by saying to you all day I've been thinking of two quotes.

I was thinking, I've been thinking of two quotes. I was thinking of this thing Mailer

Mailer famously said in this interview with his one of his sons I think when his

last interview maybe that a novelist can get inside anybody's mind except a better novelist.

And...

That's a nice quote.

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