Paul Schiefer and Ken Cook: What Makes Amy’s So Unique
Food with Mark Bittman
Sweetness and Light
4.9 • 947 Ratings
🗓️ 22 October 2025
⏱️ 41 minutes
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Paul Schiefer, President of Amy’s Kitchen, and Ken Cook, President and Co-Founder of Environmental Working Group, talk to Kate and Mark about scaled organic as a sustainability solution; what, specifically, makes Amy’s cooking stand out; how conventional agriculture weakens prices; and making organic easier and more accessible to all.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to food. I'm Kate Bitman, and we are so glad that you're here with us. |
| 0:07.0 | If you want more, remember to check us out online at bitmanproject.com. |
| 0:11.3 | We've got more than 1,500 recipes with new ones added daily, plus some really wonderful |
| 0:17.0 | food writing from some really wonderful food writers and recommendations for products |
| 0:22.4 | and more. |
| 0:23.4 | Bitmanproject.com. |
| 0:24.5 | And as always, email us with any questions or feedback at food at markbitman.com. I grew up with two parents who enjoyed cooking. |
| 0:50.8 | My dad cooked most nights, but my mom was and is a good cook in her own right. She just didn't |
| 0:57.2 | have to do it that much, which I think she enjoyed. My sister and I both cook and were both |
| 1:02.6 | decent for sure, but growing up with Mark Bittman as a dad, he's a bit of a purest. His frozen meals |
| 1:09.4 | are literally his frozen meals, things that he's |
| 1:12.5 | cooked and frozen. My sister and I, however, are happy to admit that there are companies out there |
| 1:18.0 | that know how to make good packaged foods that aren't ultra-processed and that are actually |
| 1:22.8 | satisfying. When I got out of college, I was living by myself at my grandparents' apartment in Peter Cooper |
| 1:29.2 | Village in the East 20s in New York. Many nights I subsisted on a diet of popcorn with spray butter, |
| 1:36.3 | speaking of ultra-processed, and wine. I was lazy and had body dysmorphia and just wanted to sit |
| 1:42.8 | in front of the TV and enjoy some alone time. |
| 1:45.7 | When I wasn't eating popcorn, I was usually eating Amy's macaroni and cheese. Boxed mac and cheese |
| 1:51.5 | didn't do it for me and I legitimately enjoyed eating Amy's. Just the other night, actually, |
| 1:56.9 | it was me and Holden home together. I made him pasta with my leftover red sauce, and I ate an |
| 2:01.8 | Amy's broccoli pop pie. It hit the spot. And then I got to go watch Monsters on Netflix |
| 2:07.0 | after Holden went to bed. A pioneer of the organic foods movement, Amy's kitchen started more than |
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