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Food with Mark Bittman

Fadi Kattan Pays a Loving Tribute to Bethlehem

Food with Mark Bittman

Sweetness and Light

Nutrition, Arts, Food, Culture, Cooking, Health & Fitness, Society & Culture

4.9947 Ratings

🗓️ 24 October 2025

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

In this revisiting of a 2024 episode, chef and author Fadi Kattan talks to Mark and Kate about the dangers of simplifying reality; why we should recognize and champion origin, and how doing so is a lesson in humility; the effect the Israeli conflict has had on agriculture; and his cookbook, Bethlehem. 


We're sharing two recipes from Bethlehem on the Bittman Project – Fig Salad, and Mujadara – and you can find them here.  


https://bittmanproject.com/recipe/fadi-kattans-fig-salad/


https://bittmanproject.com/recipe/fadi-kattans-mujadara/


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0:00.0

Welcome to food. I'm Kate Bitman, and we are so glad that you're here with us. If you want more,

0:08.2

remember to check us out online at bitmanproject.com. We've got more than 1,500 recipes with new ones

0:14.6

added daily, plus some really wonderful food writing from some really wonderful food writers,

0:20.5

and recommendations for products and more.

0:23.2

Bitmanproject.com. And as always, email us with any questions or feedback at food at markbitman.com. When we originally ran this episode more than a year ago, we received, not surprisingly

0:52.1

at all, both extremely negative and extremely positive feedback.

0:57.6

Fadi Qatan is a Franco-Palestinian chef who lives in Bethlehem. He's also from Bethlehem and owns two restaurants.

1:06.0

Akub in London and Luf in Toronto. Both of Fadi's restaurants celebrate Palestine's rich diversity

1:13.2

of ingredients and culinary traditions and feature his twist on the cherished food of his homeland.

1:19.2

Sounds great to me, and I hope to visit at least one of his spots at some point in the not-so-distant

1:24.3

future. Also, if you are interested, you should check out Fadi's cookbook,

1:28.4

Bethlehem, a celebration of Palestinian food. But of course, the feedback we got was political and

1:34.2

came from both ends of the spectrum. Lots of thank yous for featuring a Palestinian chef,

1:40.0

lots of, I hope you'll feature an Israeli chef, too. Nothing too terrible, but it felt weird that

1:46.2

we couldn't feature Foddy without getting entwined in politics. Again, though, not surprising.

1:52.2

I won't pretend that I know more than about 0.0001% of the history between Israel and Palestine.

1:59.9

I'm Jewish by birth, but that certainly doesn't

2:02.1

make me Israeli or pro-Israel. I consider myself a humanist more than anything, and I certainly don't

2:07.8

think innocent people on any side of any conflict should suffer. I was such a black and white person

2:13.0

up until not long ago, and I've only recently begun to embrace the gray side of things. If the last

2:18.7

few years, on many levels, have showed us anything, it's that nuance is one of the most important

2:23.9

things we can learn as humans. We can feel sympathy for both sides. We can form our own opinions

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