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The Unspeakeasy With Meghan Daum

Paul Rudnick on British royals, coastal elites, and the strange freedoms of New Jersey

The Unspeakeasy With Meghan Daum

Meghan Daum

Society & Culture

4.7855 Ratings

🗓️ 27 June 2021

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

Playwright, novelist, and screenwriter Paul Rudnick is one of the most celebrated humorists of his generation. From his 1993 breakout off-Broadway hit play, Jeffrey to Broadway hits like I Hate Hamlet and screenplays for films like In and Out, Addams Family Values and Sister Act, Paul is a master of not just the quippy one-liner but also deeply realized characters and relatable, if often absurd situations. He's also been a regular contributor to The New Yorker for decades and is the author of several books, mostly recently the novel Playing the Palace, which is about a gay relationship between a young New York party planner and an imagined version of the Prince of Wales. Paul spoke with Meghan about gay subject matter in his work over time, his fascination with the British royal family, his latest project for HBO and his feelings about the ever shifting battle lines of the new wars. They also talked about growing up in New Jersey, which is its own kind of culture war.        Guest Bio: Paul Rudnick is a novelist, playwright, essayist and screenwriter. His Obie award winning plays have been produced both on and off Broadway and around the world, and include I Hate Hamlet, Jeffery, and The Most Fabulous Story Ever Told.  His screenplays include Addams Family Values, In and Out and Sister and his many book include Social Disease, I'll Take It and, most recently, Playing the Palace.

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0:00.0

When I've worked on theater productions where people have said, oh, what if we filmed the whole rehearsal process?

0:08.8

What if we make a documentary of this entire production?

0:13.1

And I look at them and think, are you out of your mind?

0:16.9

The idea of recording every moment and every mistake and of making sure that no one gets to fail

0:22.8

privately is absolutely obscene. You know, that's a good way to make people freeze and not try

0:30.1

anything new, not try something that's not going to work, but will be a step towards something

0:35.2

that just might. That if you eliminate privacy, it's really crippling.

0:43.1

Although, and I did just read something where it said we should avoid the word crippling

0:47.3

because that also could be an insult to the disabled community,

0:51.9

which is something that I've actually thought about.

0:54.5

But, of course, I just actually been thought about. But of course,

0:56.0

I just use the word anyway.

1:07.0

Welcome to the unspeakable podcast. I'm your host, Megan Dome. My guest, playwright, novelist,

1:12.2

and screenwriter Paul Rudnick is one of the most celebrated humorous of his generation.

1:18.7

From his 1993 breakout off-Broadway hit play, Jeffrey, which was groundbreaking in that it managed to be a comedy about the AIDS crisis to Broadway hits like I Hate Hamlet,

1:24.5

screenplays for films like In and Out, Adam's Family Values, and Sister Act,

1:29.8

Paul is a master of not just the quippy one-liner, but also deeply realized characters

1:35.2

and relatable, if often absurd, situations. He's also been a regular contributor to the New Yorker

1:41.5

for decades and is the author of several books, most recently

1:45.3

the novel Playing the Palace, which is about a gay relationship between a young New York

1:51.3

party planner and an imagined version of the Prince of Wales. Paul spoke with me about gay subject

1:57.6

matter in his work over time, his fascination with the British royal family,

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