Welcome to the Eric Mataxis show.

It's the show that Mark Twain once called Smartern, a Blue Jay, what can talk possum,

and faster than a naked fat man riding a bolts of lightning.

So here's your plain spoken homespun host, Eric Mataxis.

Hey there, folks.

Welcome to Eric Mataxis show.

We have a very special treat.

We got a lot of special treats, but you know what?

If it's special, it's special.

Today, there's a new book out.

I am very excited to talk to the author. The book is called The Devil

and Carl Marks. The author we've had on this program before, his name is Paul Kangor of Grove

City College. Paul Kangor, welcome to this program and congratulations on what seems to me

a rather important book, especially for such a time as this, if I can

quote. Well, as somebody, as a man who wrote a lot of important books, you, thank you. I

appreciate that. I know we've had you to Grove City College in the past, and I must add,

you don't want to congratulate me for having to research this stuff, man. This was

ugly. You know, something I have to say, we talk a lot on this program about, you know,

Marxism, socialism, what that is, what godless atheism is. It's the kind of thing that, you know,

people would say, you know,

in an archway in the cultural elite circles about the Cold War, godless atheism. But the reality is

that it's a reality. And I think now we're seeing some of it played out when people are really

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