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planning center.com to get started for free. We also need to help believers these days find good ways to talk about judgment because my older

believers, yeah, they've long believed in judgment, but my younger folks is very difficult for them

to think about judgment and it being fair, so they're almost default universalists if they're

not careful.

It is important for us to find ways to help people understand that judgment is just because

it's about a relationship with God.

How do you relate to the Creator and the King and the Savior is the issue, not whether I've

kept a set of rules or not.

Welcome to Help Me Teach the Bible. I'm Nancy Guthrie. Help Me Teach the Bible is a production of the Gospel Coalition, sponsored by Crossway, a not-for-profit publisher of the ESV Bible

Christian books and tracks. Learn more at crossway.org. Today I am at Beeson Divinity School in

Birmingham, Alabama in the office of Dr. Paul Howes. Dr. Howes, thank you for being willing to

help us teach the Bible. Well, thank you. It's a privilege to be with you. We had a conversation,

gosh, it has to be a couple of years ago now. We talked through the book of

Jeremiah. And one thing I remember about that was I heard some things that I hadn't heard

before in our conversation. I heard more when I was editing it. And then when I just sat and

listened to the finished episode when it came out, I heard other insights that I hadn't caught the first time.

So I appreciate your depth of knowledge of God's Word.

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