Paul Haenle on North Korea, Taiwan, U.S.-China relations, and more
Sinica Podcast
Kaiser Kuo
4.8 • 676 Ratings
🗓️ 20 September 2018
⏱️ 63 minutes
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Summary
This week, Kaiser chats with Paul Haenle, who is the Maurice R. Greenberg Director of the Carnegie-Tsinghua Center for Global Policy, and previously served on the National Security Council as a staffer under both George W. Bush and Barack Obama. Their conversation — which runs the gamut from North Korea to Taiwan to the Belt and Road — was recorded live at Schwarzman College in Beijing on September 6. Recommendations: Paul: The China in the World podcast, which he hosts, and which recently published its 100th episode. The work of Tong Zhao, a North Korea scholar at the Carnegie-Tsinghua. “Singapore Sham,” a highly critical article by Jessica Matthews about the Trump-Kim summit. And The Impossible State, a podcast about North Korea by four experts at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. Kaiser: Listennotes.com, where you can find topics and people in podcasts all neatly sorted and searchable.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to this special live edition of the Cynica podcast coming here today from the Shortsman College at Tsinghua University in Beijing. |
| 0:16.0 | Let's see you, Shortsman scholars and other friends make some noise. |
| 0:21.6 | You guys! |
| 0:39.3 | Don't you wish you had your guitar? |
| 0:40.3 | I wish I had my guitar, right? |
| 0:42.3 | Okay, so the Cynica podcast is produced in partnership with SubChina, which is the best way to keep on top of the latest news from China with our free email newsletter, our smartphone app, and of course at the website, SUPChina.com. If you folks in the audience |
| 0:56.0 | haven't already subscribed, then do it now. And I promise, I will not judge you or assume that |
| 1:01.5 | you are ignoring me and playing Candy Crush on your phones instead. You'll see that indeed |
| 1:06.3 | it is a feast of business, political, and cultural news about a nation that is reshaping the world. |
| 1:13.7 | I am Kaiser Guo, and I am delighted to be joined here by Paul Henley, Maurice R. Greenberg, |
| 1:18.3 | director of the Carnegie Tsinghua Center for Global Policy. Paul was a National Security |
| 1:23.2 | Council staffer during both the Bush 43 and Obama administrations looking after China, |
| 1:28.7 | Taiwan, and Mongolia. Paul is an old friend, but somehow we have not managed to get him |
| 1:34.2 | on the podcast in the, my God, how many years that we've been doing this. And I should have that |
| 1:38.6 | Paul and his colleagues host an excellent podcast at the Carnegie Institute. It's the Carnegie Chi Huang Center. It's called |
| 1:45.2 | China in the World. And it's recently published its 100th episode. Yeah. |
| 1:54.6 | So in fact, we're going to make this one a crossover show that will run both on China |
| 2:00.2 | in the World and here on Seneca. Paul, after all, |
| 2:03.0 | has a great deal of insight to contribute, which, as the podcast host, he is often obliged to hold back |
| 2:09.0 | on. But now we're going to give him a chance to be on the other side of the table, as it were. |
| 2:13.3 | So Paul Henley, welcome to Seneca at long last. Let's give a big round of applause to Paul. |
| 2:26.9 | So, Paul, I want to start with a sort of quick overview of your own involvement in China |
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