China's 'reliable friendship' with Pakistan, explained by Andrew Small

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Kaiser Kuo

Culture, China News, Hangzhou, Chinese, International Relations, Chongqing, Beijing, Sichuan, Currentaffairs, China, Politics, Chengdu, Shanghai, Guangzhou, China Economy, News, China Politics, Business, Film, Shenzhen

4.8 • 676 Ratings

🗓️ 13 September 2018

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

This week, Kaiser and Jeremy chat with Andrew Small, senior transatlantic fellow at the German Marshall Fund in Washington, D.C. Andrew is one of surprisingly few scholars with specialized experience researching China's relations with what it calls its "all-weather friend" — Pakistan. His book from 2015 on the subject is titled The China-Pakistan Axis: Asia's New Geopolitics. Kaiser, Jeremy, and Andrew discuss how Sino-Pakistani ties have been impacted by the recent election of Imran Khan to prime minister, Pakistan's economic difficulties, and the numerous projects that comprise the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor, or CPEC – one of the most important components of China's Belt and Road Initiative. Recommendations: Jeremy: What3Words, a startup that has divided the entire world into a grid of 57 trillion squares, each of them three meters by three meters (9.8 feet), and assigned each square a three-word address, generated randomly by computer. Improving.shrimps.legal, for instance, is located just south of the Chairman Mao portrait at Tiananmen in Beijing. Read more about the system and its implications for developing countries and China on SupChina. Andrew: Two alternative views on how an economic “decoupling” of the U.S. and China could happen, other than the tariff-driven trade war path currently being taken. First, “Trump thinks a trade war with China is the only option, but it’s not,” a piece by Dan Rosen in Foreign Affairs, and second, “Jennifer Hillman testifies on addressing Chinese market distortions,” where the Georgetown Law professor lays out before the U.S. Senate in early June how litigation could be brought before the World Trade Organization to address grievances against China. Kaiser: Command and Control: Nuclear Weapons, the Damascus Accident, and the Illusion of Safety, by Eric Schlosser.

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0:00.0	Welcome to the Cynical podcast, a weekly discussion of current affairs in China, produced in partnership with SubChina.
0:14.8	SubChina is the best way to keep on top of all the latest news in China with our email newsletter, our app, and our website. And while you're
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0:28.8	reporting from and about China, and you can read about everything from media policy to the
0:33.8	Me Too movement, from the trade war to China's ongoing draconian repression of Uyghurs in
0:38.7	southern Xinjiang.
0:39.9	We're sure you'll agree that it's a feast of business, political, and cultural news about a
0:44.4	nation that is reshaping the world.
0:47.2	I'm coming to you today from the offices of the German Marshall Fund in Washington, D.C.
0:51.1	joining me from the Sylvan Splendor of Goldcorn holler in Nashville,
0:55.7	Tennessee, is Sub-China's editor-in-chief. Jeremy Goldcorn. Jeremy, greet the people, won't you?
1:01.6	Hello, people. It's a pleasure to be back. Yeah, well, it's great to have you back.
1:06.4	Jeremy, you've got a lot of allies, but China doesn't. China, in fact, if you think about it, it's only got one ally, and that would, of course, be Pakistan,
1:15.8	which is an Islamic Republic with more than its fair share of problems.
1:19.8	In spite of those problems, China has bet big on Pakistan.
1:23.5	The China-Pakistan Economic Corridor, the C-P-E-C, is one of the big show pieces, if not indeed, the linchpin of the Belt and Road Initiative.
1:32.9	So when there is political change in Pakistan, China pays very close attention, and there has been changed.
1:39.1	With the electoral victory this summer of a party called the PTI led by an ex-cricotter named Imran Khan, who has now been
1:47.4	named by his party as Prime Minister.
1:50.0	So with us here today to talk about the all-weather friendship, the election of Imran Khan
1:55.6	and the future prospects for CPEC is Andrew Small, a senior transatlantic fellow with the Asia program of the
2:03.5	German Marshall Fund in Washington, D.C. And, you know, the Belt and Road often gets compared
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