Hello everybody and welcome to the latest edition of the Blood Red

podcast I'm James Pierce and I'm delighted to be joined by two very special guests today one slightly more

special than the other we've got Andy Kelly the Liverpool FC editor I take it

I'm the not very special one jones no fair enough it's still good to have you

so good to have you and the other one who is certainly

more important is poor dog leash the obviously the son of the cop icon Kenny and a man who enjoyed a very decent playing career in Newcastle,

Norwich in Scotland and then huge success in North America both as a player and a coach.

Yeah, thanks for joining us, Paul.

Hey, listen, so I'm coming back on here.

That's the introduction you get.

I like those lies that you tell you. It makes you feel good about myself.

How are you doing?

I'm good. I'm really, really good. Just taking a break at this moment of time, deciding what's next and then, and then kind of

going to attack it with full force. So just got to be patient and wait for the right opportunity.

Yeah.

Yeah, obviously your most recent role was with Ottawa Fury, wasn't it?

I mean, you part a company with them in August, it was it just time to to look around for a new

challenge? Yeah I know it was it was I had two jobs there was the general manager and the

head coach as well that they called over there basically had two roles and I went to speak them and said I don't think I

can do this much longer going forward. It's a little bit too much and the way

the conversation went, they said if you're thinking about going at the end of the season, then it's better for us if you go now so that we can plan.

So I thought that was the, I thought that was the respectful thing to do and that's what I do.

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