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Paul D. Miller: "International Law Is Not the Same Thing as Justice"

The Gist

Peach Fish Productions

Daily News, News

4.53.7K Ratings

🗓️ 30 January 2026

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Paul D. Miller joins the show to argue that international law is a set of norms, not a moral court. A former CIA analyst and Army intelligence officer now at Georgetown, Miller explains why post-conflict reconciliation only works when locals accept it, why Israel faces a unique double standard, and how democracies navigate war without becoming what they're accused of being. We discuss Rwanda, denazification, Kosovo, Gaza, civilian casualty ratios, and why just war theory still matters after the shooting stops. Plus, the arrest of Don Lemon—why it's less a First Amendment crisis than another example of selective punishment, pretextual enforcement, and politics disguised as law. Produced by Corey Wara Coordinated by Lya Yanne Video and Social Media by Geoff Craig Do you have questions or comments, or just want to say hello? Email us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠thegist@mikepesca.com For full Pesca content and updates, check out our website at https://www.mikepesca.com/⁠ For ad-free content or to become a Pesca Plus subscriber, check out ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://subscribe.mikepesca.com/ For Mike's daily takes on Substack, subscribe to The Gist List https://mikepesca.substack.com/ Follow us on Social Media:⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4_bh0wHgk2YfpKf4rg40_g⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/pescagist/ X https://x.com/pescami TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@pescagist To advertise on the show, contact ⁠⁠⁠⁠ad-sales@libsyn.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ or visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://advertising.libsyn.com/TheGist

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0:44.9

It's Friday, January 30th, 2026 from Peachfish Productions. It's the gist. I'm Mike

0:49.4

Peska. Don Lemon was arrested and this morning on CNN, John Berman hosted a segment with an Axios journalist and Jackie Kucinich of the Boston Globe.

0:59.6

He asked this question.

1:01.7

When you see something like this happened, Jackie first to you, what's your reaction when you learn that Don and another journalist have been taken into custody?

1:10.2

Now Kucinich, the Washington Bureau Chief of the Globe, she failed the question well.

1:14.3

Nothing here in this commentary is meant to fault her.

1:17.3

But I would have underlined what a journalist is and does.

1:21.1

And I might have answered something like, John, it doesn't matter what I thought or what I felt.

1:26.4

It matters what I as a journalist can contribute to our knowledge while setting aside my own personal reaction.

1:32.6

And then I might have gone on to offer this bit of analysis.

1:36.5

Though Lemon is a journalist and though it is unacceptable to prosecute journalists for doing journalism,

1:42.7

what happened here maybe should not be best understood

1:45.9

as an assault on journalism, but another kind of assault. I will also note for the record that

1:50.7

Georgia Fort, who is the other independent journalist, that's how she's always described, was in

1:55.5

that church. And she is much more of an activist, even more than Don Lemon, who is definitely

2:00.6

an opinion journalist and tangles with Donald Trump.

2:03.0

But she, too, deserves protections.

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