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On Being with Krista Tippett

Paul Collins and Jennifer Elder — Autism and Humanity

On Being with Krista Tippett

On Being Studios

Sociology, Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality, Krista Tippett, Arts, Culture, On Being, Society, Society & Culture, Science, Social Sciences

4.710.2K Ratings

🗓️ 14 July 2011

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

One child in every 110 in the U.S. is now diagnosed to be somewhere on the spectrum of autism. We step back from public controversies over causes and cures and explore the mystery and meaning of autism in one family’s life, and in history and society. Our guests say that life with their child with autism has deepened their understanding of human nature — of disability, and of creativity, intelligence, and accomplishment.

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0:00.0

Jennifer Elder and Paul Collins have grappled with autism since the diagnosis of their

0:08.8

son Morgan in 2002. Paul, a literary historian, has traced autism hidden between the lines

0:15.4

of history. Jennifer has written and illustrated books for children with autism. They help us

0:21.5

see beyond controversies over causes and cures. They pull back a curtain on the mystery

0:27.4

and meaning of this place on the spectrum of what it means to be human.

0:32.4

I think that cuts right to the heart of both of our works, that there's a spectrum, and

0:37.4

that we see the world in a completely different way now. You know, it's not just Morgan.

0:43.2

We now see these traits running through our family and through society. I'm Chris

0:50.4

to tip it on being, stay with us.

1:01.5

One child in every 110 in the US is now diagnosed to be somewhere on the spectrum of autism,

1:07.8

and as awareness rises, so too do studies, treatments, and speculation about causes and

1:13.3

cures. For years, I looked for a different way into learning about autism and thinking

1:18.9

about it as part of contemporary life. I found two great teachers in Jennifer Elder and

1:24.2

Paul Collins. Life with their son with autism, as they tell it, has stretched their understanding

1:30.1

of the spectrum of what it means to be human. Jennifer, an artist, has authored books about

1:35.8

autism for children and families. Paul, a literary historian, has pursued glimpses of autism

1:42.0

across history and society before it had a name.

1:46.6

autism wasn't even really conceptualized or named until the early 1940s, and in fact

1:51.2

there was, to me, a really fascinating study done in the 1970s when a lot of mental institutions

1:57.3

were being shut down. Coming out, they found the majority of the patients in these places

2:03.3

were autistic. They've always been part of society, but I think for a long time they weren't

2:08.1

being diagnosed, and they were actually being hidden away, so to speak. They were being

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