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On Being with Krista Tippett

Amahl Bishara and Nidal Al-Azraq — Pleasure More Than Hope

On Being with Krista Tippett

On Being Studios

Sociology, Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality, Krista Tippett, Arts, Culture, On Being, Society, Society & Culture, Science, Social Sciences

4.710.2K Ratings

🗓️ 7 July 2011

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Did you know that the sacred city of Bethlehem lies within the West Bank? And, inside its borders, you’ll find something unexpected — a close-knit neighborhood where generations of people have created a new life for themselves. Amahl Bishara and Nidal Al-Azraq show us something rare that we don’t see in the news about refugee camps — the quiet cycles of everyday life.

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Lately, I've been rereading the Courage to Be by the 20th century Theologian philosopher Paltillic.

0:06.0

It's basic message is this.

0:08.0

We dwell in what is best in us, what is essential about ourselves,

0:12.0

and find joy in these things,

0:14.0

in spite of the accidental and difficult parts of every life.

0:18.0

It occurs to me that it's this elemental courage to be

0:22.0

that is always missing in news of far away tragedy and conflict.

0:27.0

We experience pictures of people frozen in the worst moments of their lives.

0:32.0

We have no sense of what will help them get out of bed the next morning

0:36.0

and still live and love and even take joy.

0:39.0

This was on my mind as we produced this hour's show,

0:42.0

a new installment in our series from Jerusalem at the West Bank.

0:46.0

This time we soak up the humanity of a close-knit neighborhood in the sacred city of Bethlehem,

0:51.0

that is, normal life in a Palestinian refugee camp in a West Bank town.

0:56.0

The things that give me hope and pleasure here,

1:02.0

and I have to say pleasure more than hope,

1:04.0

getting to enjoy sort of the change of the seasons here,

1:08.0

and enjoy the cauliflower and then the almonds and then the chickpeas.

1:13.0

It's one of the resistance elements,

1:16.0

even though you feel the pain inside you if you need to laugh

1:20.0

and you need to smile, you need to play, you need to move in your life.

1:31.0

From APM, American Public Media, I'm Christa Tippett.

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