Hello and welcome to Bible Stories. We are your hosts, Matt Mullins. Hello. Hey, Matt, my name is Todd

Hamons and we are two ministers slash buds who love, love, love to share the stories of the Bible and you know what we cannot wait to do that with you right now. In fact, in fact, this is a really interesting story regarding Paul and Barnabas and them even having a separation.

So Matt, I'm going to throw it to you, bro.

Tell us what's going on. I'm going to catch it. I'm going to put my glove down for just a minute and say welcome back home. You were you were on a retreat. Love that I was on a retreat and what was crazy about that is you had your glove on and yet you still called it bare handed.

Cut it in my teeth. I just wanted to ask how it was. Did you guys have color wars clean this cabin awards. How was it?

There's a term called super camper, which is how many days can you go with without bathing without taking a shower and I took that one home.

Just you know, just living, living on the trail, just living in nature. So that was good. But yeah, had a good little retreat with some friends.

So encouraging. Thank you, Matt for asking. That means a lot. It's my pleasure and we're so glad that you're back.

Yeah, well, it's great to be back, but also Matt, there was something even more important that just happened recently and that was your birthday.

Happy birthday to Matt Mullins. My best mom's friend. And I want to tell you that I love you. From all the mom's friends, we all love you. We're so excited for you.

You're now what 71 years old and 14. Just turned 14 and that's good, man. That's great. Did you have a good day anything special happened?

Was it kind of a family day? Any wild and wacky event? Anything you cared to share?

With my 14th birthday, I got on my skateboard with my gesture sticks, drank a bunch of surge cola, watched the new Disney version of Doug, which is not as good.

And just really had a great day. So I took the day off and I did some work around the house. I went inside movie and went to Sam's club and walked around with a hot dog in my hand.

Like a real old man. And I just loved it. It was a great day. Came home and had a cookie cake with my wife and daughter. It was fantastic.

Good stuff. Good stuff. Your teeth okay? They're doing good. Here's my problem is today I ate a hot dog again. It was very close to my birthday.

And either I ate some cow bone or chip to tooth. So I'm not sure which one. I'm pulling for the cow bone is what I'm really hoping for.

You know what I mean? Who hadn't you know eating a little bit of cow bone in their hot dog? We're praying it was a cow, you know?

Yeah, I mean I know regrets not looking back. That's for sure. No regrets. No regrets just raggedy teeth, which is what your boy has got in addition to a story about conflict within ministry.

But you and I have been in full time ministry. Basically our adult lives. Yeah, would you say that conflict is fairly common in ministry?

Yes, I would. I deal with it. If not daily, maybe weekly, you know, but yeah, I mean we're the people business Matt and so there's a lot of conflict and you know conflict can be healthy.

It can be. It's always challenging and it's never in my opinion comfortable. But yeah, man, you know, you're dealing with people and you want to help them and bring them along and things and sometimes that happens and sometimes it doesn't happen.

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