Patrick Skinner on Warrior Cops and Neighborhood Policing
The Lawfare Podcast
The Lawfare Institute
4.7 • 6.4K Ratings
🗓️ 15 June 2020
⏱️ 58 minutes
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Summary
Patrick Skinner is a police officer in Savannah, Georgia, who brings diverse experience to that job. He served as a case officer at the Central Intelligence Agency, handling foreign intelligence sources in places like Afghanistan, Iraq and Jordan. He also has previous law enforcement experience with the U.S. Coast Guard, the U.S. Capitol Police and the U.S. Federal Air Marshal Service. David Priess spoke with Skinner about today's policing crisis, Pat's experiences with counterterrorism operations and what they taught him about effective law enforcement, and the hazards of the warrior mentality that is common across many police departments today.
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| 0:57.9 | Well here I'm walking around with my badge. |
| 0:59.6 | My actual real name is on my uniform and I'm hopping out of a car that screams, you know, |
| 1:04.9 | police CIA, whatever it is. |
| 1:07.0 | And I go into his neighborhoods and I say, hey guys, trust me, I'll be here for the |
| 1:10.3 | next six hours. |
| 1:11.5 | And so I quickly understood it was like that, that's impossible, that type of even tactical |
| 1:16.0 | level of engagement. |
| 1:19.2 | But it was really, so we were doing, we're talking about winning hearts and minds when every |
| 1:23.4 | single thing we did was to step on those hearts and minds. |
| 1:27.6 | And we were bagging people and we would have to go, I see doorboards, they're like, trust |
| 1:31.4 | us, you know, literally trust us. |
| 1:33.5 | At the exact time we would never, there was no way I would ever trust somebody. |
| 1:38.1 | You know, I'm not trusting you, screw you, it's us versus them. |
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