Patrick Mackay: The Two Sides Of A Psychopath - Bonus Chat
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🗓️ 21 December 2025
⏱️ 84 minutes
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Summary
Psychopath - The Two Sides Of Patrick Mackay, my collaboration with Mike from the fabulous Murder Mile, is now out in its full 10 parts. A few weeks ago, having finished it, me and Mike managed to sit down and discuss the case in full, which we have recorded us doing, and which we bring to you for a bonus time around. It's totally unscripted, very largely unedited, perhaps a lot less serious than both of us usually are - and which I bring to you here.
The episode contains details and descriptions of crimes and events, involving descriptions of animal cruelty, that some listeners may find disturbing or distressing, so discretion is advised whilst listening in.
Music used in this episode: "The Descent" by Kevin Macleod. All music used is sourced from https://filmmusic.io/ and used under an Attribution Licence (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Always True Crime, a podcast network bringing you gripping real-life stories that you won't be able to stop thinking about. |
| 0:08.2 | Discover your next true crime obsession at alwaystruecrime.com. |
| 0:12.0 | Music The |
| 0:23.6 | The The |
| 0:40.3 | The Hello all and the very warmest of welcomes to the True Crime Enthusiast podcast, coming to you from a bone-chillingly cold corner of North Wales. |
| 1:20.0 | It's proper bloody freezing outside, isn't it? |
| 1:22.5 | At the moment, and from where each time around I come armed with a tale of true crime that's perhaps off the norm, |
| 1:28.9 | it may be unfamiliar to you, or so obscure, that I've sought out from the darkest underbellies |
| 1:34.3 | that the globe has to offer. |
| 1:37.2 | Doing so is myself, Paul, a creator host and true crime enthusiast of the show's title. |
| 1:41.8 | He's black, white, and never really out of my sight when I'm here anyway. My beloved true crime enthusiast, the show's title. He's black, white and never really out of my sight when I'm |
| 1:45.1 | here anyway. My beloved true crime enthusiast, Pee, is with me as he always is. And he may even |
| 1:51.2 | pop up with his little bell at some point, you never know. And of course, me and Peeks are completed by |
| 1:56.9 | yourselves, the wonderful enthusiasts that make the show happen. Or else this is just me |
| 2:01.9 | talking to myself in my office filled with murder books and I'm only about one swish away from |
| 2:08.2 | the butterfly net as it is. It is as fabulous as always having you joining me in the Mogg today, |
| 2:14.6 | which I thank you kindly for doing so and I do hope that as you have, |
| 2:18.3 | then it's for a tale that finds you and yours all good, all safe, and all well. |
| 2:25.6 | So, after a short but necessary break, I'm back here on the enthusiast, but with something this |
| 2:31.8 | time around, a bit different from what I normally do. |
| 2:36.1 | Unless you live at the bottom of the sea, |
| 2:38.0 | then you'll know that recently, myself and my good friend Mike, |
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