Hey folks, this is Abel James, thanks so much for joining us on the fat burning man show where we talk about real food and

real results.

One was the last time you had recess.

With more children being homeschooled than ever before,

it's a good time to look at the research, and I'm happy to say that joining us on the show today is

Patricia Wilkinson, a parenting coach, teacher, mother of two, and co-author of Brain Stages,

how to raise smart, confident kids, and have fun doing it.

We're chatting about the relationship between diet and behavior, the importance of recess,

gamified education, and tons more.

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love the approach Abel uses, and look forward to his podcasts on my morning runs.

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