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Patric Gagne: Sociopaths, compulsive behaviours, and theft

Happy Place

Fearne Cotton

Relationships, Mental Health, Society & Culture, Health & Fitness

4.715.6K Ratings

🗓️ 20 May 2024

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Sociopathy should be understood as a spectrum disorder. It’s a disorder that affects roughly 5% of the population – similar to the number of people who have depression or anxiety. Patric Gagne is a sociopath.

 

In this chat with Fearne, Patric explains the difference between a psychopath and a sociopath. Sociopaths have access to inherent emotions like sadness and happiness, but struggle with learned social emotions like remorse, guilt, empathy, and love. There’s also a huge feeling of apathy for Patric, which in the past led her to anti-social behaviours like stealing cars and breaking into houses.

 

Fearne also points out the benefits of not caring what others think of you; while she people pleases a lot, she can see the freedom in having a lack of a filter. They chat about how to function in a relationship when you have to communicate any kind of mental disorder or illness too.

 

Patric’s memoir, Sociopath, is this month’s Happy Place Book Club read. Come and be part of the Book Club discussions on Instagram @happyplacebookclub.

 

Sociopath is out now.

 

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Thanks to Bluebird (an imprint of Pan Macmillan) for the Sociopath audiobook extract.


 


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0:00.0

Hello it's Fern here popping in quickly before the show because I really want to hear from you.

0:06.0

I am forever grateful to you every single time you press play on an episode of Happy Place

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and this show really is for you. So in the interest of doing

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it if you took a couple of minutes to fill out a little survey for me.

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shape the future of Happy Place. So just click on the link in the show notes to

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share all your thoughts and musings. I appreciate you loads.

0:45.0

Hello and welcome to Happy Place with me Fern Cotton.

0:50.0

Today the author of this month's Happy place book club read Patrick Gagni, she's written a memoir called

0:57.2

Sociopath.

0:58.6

My name is Patrick Gagni and I am a sociopath.

1:02.0

I am a passionate mother and wife. I am an engaging therapist.

1:06.2

I am extremely charming and well liked. I have lots of friends. I am a member of a country club.

1:12.0

I throw parties for every occasion you can imagine.

1:14.8

I live in a nice house. I'm a writer. I like to cook. I vote. I make people laugh.

1:21.5

I have a dog and a cat and I wait in carpool lines next to other women with dogs and cats.

1:27.0

On the surface I resemble almost every other average American woman.

1:32.0

Social media confirms my existence. almost every other average American woman.

1:33.0

Social media confirms my existence as a happy mommy and loving partner whose posts are borderline

1:38.5

narcissistic.

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