Hello, this is Hal Herring with Backcountry Hunters and Anglers podcast and Blast.

I'm here in Boise, Idaho at the rendezvous with Yvonne

Schenard who founded Patagonia. He probably needs less and more it and no

introduction, but to save us some time I'd like to

What I guess I'd say is that that

Shinnord is probably a challenge more of the paradigms, more of the destructive paradigms in our nation and our society and global society and anybody that I can think of.

And he's done it both through absolute action,

through absolute action, through lifestyle,

and through business practice.

This is one of the most more interesting interviews that I can imagine doing and it nonetheless so because I've got a copy of climbing ice that's probably 1984

Both of the spine broken and all the pages stuff back in it was kind of our Bible for I don't know how many years I learned the PLA and I learned

that book has been integral to to some of the best adventures I've ever had.

So I can't thank you enough for putting that together

setting us off onto suicidal missions,

one after another sometime from Canada all the way down to to Wyoming.

So Yvonne because of we're backcountry hunters

and I'm going and whatnot.

I did some reading on, I'd like to hear some of your growing up days you've been

immersed long before you I know I know you said nobody ever set out to be a

businessman you know they want to be a firefighter or a

warrior princess or whatever you know, but you were immersed in the natural world

from from a day one right? Well yeah, yeah, I mean, when I was a kid, I, you know, I was brought up speaking French, and we moved

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