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Let's Know Things

Password Vaults

Let's Know Things

Colin Wright

News Commentary, News

4.8593 Ratings

🗓️ 3 January 2023

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

This week we talk about signs and countersigns, passkeys, and the LastPass hack.

We also discuss quantum computing, security experts, and arbitrary strings of characters.

Show notes / transcript: https://letsknowthings.com/episode344



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0:00.0

The concept of a password isn't new, but its non-verbal application is a relatively modern development.

0:23.5

In earlier eras, passwords were typically used by sentries and soldiers and spies, wanting

0:29.2

to identify enemies in their midst, and to figure out when they've encountered an ally with

0:34.5

whom they're meant to share information or provide access rather than an enemy

0:39.3

hoping to trick them into divulging secrets or to let them past the heavily guarded gates.

0:45.3

Over time, these passwords or pass codes or signs, as they were sometimes called, became more sophisticated.

0:52.3

And one of the more common upgraded applications through World War II was the use of a password followed by a

0:59.4

counter password or a sign followed by a countersign. One person saying, for instance,

1:05.5

pigeon, while the other responded daffodil. And that would tell both parties they've met up

1:10.6

with the right person

1:11.4

despite not knowing each other not knowing what the other person would look like ahead of time

1:15.9

and so on this allowed people to create a layer of trust in an otherwise trust-free environment

1:21.8

and this method was improved upon with the advent of ever-changing passwords which would be

1:26.5

swapped out every few days to make

1:28.5

sure a captured soldier's password or counter-password stolen by the enemy under duress

1:34.3

wouldn't give them access to anything important for more than a day or two after they gave it up.

1:39.5

Similar trust-generating tools were used from the early days of computer networking. As a computer

1:44.8

network, whether we're talking about two computers directly connecting to each other over a cable,

1:50.0

or computers connecting via an intermediary service, like a local area network where the internet,

1:55.6

would want to be sure they were linking up to the correct device, lest they send information

2:00.4

or grant access or control to a malevolent actor,

2:04.6

someone wanting to hack or otherwise mess with them.

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