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Stansberry Investor Hour

Passive-Investing Zombies Have Hijacked the Stock Market

Stansberry Investor Hour

Stansberry Research

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4.4677 Ratings

🗓️ 30 June 2025

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

On this week's Stansberry Investor Hour, Dan and Corey welcome their colleague Bryan Beach back to the show. Bryan is the editor of Stansberry Venture Value and a senior analyst on Stansberry's Investment Advisory.

Bryan kicks things off by discussing passive investing, the stock market's "relentless bid," and what could derail passive investing in the future. He points out that the total assets invested passively surpassed those invested actively last year. Not only is this an important fundamental change, but Bryan says that this alters the dynamic between investors and Mr. Market that legendary economist Ben Graham outlined 70-plus years ago. Then, using Microsoft as an example, Bryan analyzes whether it's realistic to expect the Magnificent Seven companies to return to lower multiples. (0:47)

Next, Bryan talks about all the headwinds Apple has faced in the past six months and why he believes the stock would be down much more than it is today if it weren't receiving so many passively invested dollars. He says the size of the relentless bid reached a critical mass during the pandemic, and now the S&P 500 Index will continue to grind higher indefinitely. The only thing that can offset this natural inertia is bad economic news (such as tariffs), and even that is temporary. As Bryan points out, many passive investors aren't aware of what they're doing, so it would take legal changes to fix the problem. (19:32)

Finally, Bryan explains that this relentless bid does not apply to every corner of the market. He says small caps and microcaps are still great places to find value. Plus, Bryan discusses the unique situation Tesla is in today, makes a bullish case for restaurant-operations company PAR Technology, and discusses what he got wrong with special purpose acquisition companies ("SPACs") back in 2022. (42:56)

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Stansberry Investor Hour. I'm Dan Ferris and the editor of Extreme

0:07.2

Value and The Ferris Report, both published by Stansberry Research.

0:11.9

And I'm Corey McLaughlin, editor of the Stansberry Daily Digest. Today we talk with

0:16.0

Stansberry Venture Value Editor, Brian Beach. A fellow value guy.

0:21.5

We've known Brian for many years.

0:23.1

Corey and I both have.

0:24.4

He's a great guy.

0:25.7

He's a great, smart value guy

0:28.6

who's always got something a little bit different to offer.

0:31.9

And I can't wait for you to see what he's got on offer today.

0:36.1

So let's do it.

0:37.0

Let's talk with Brian Beach.

0:38.5

Let's do it right now.

0:48.0

Brian, my friend, welcome back to the show.

0:50.2

It's been a little while.

0:51.8

Hey, Dan.

0:52.2

Good to be back.

0:52.9

Yeah, it's been about a year.

0:55.0

It's time. It's time for little while. Hey, Dan, good to be back. Yeah, it's been about a year. It's time.

0:58.8

It's time for the beach update. Yeah.

1:05.0

In the world. Before we hit the record button, you actually told what I believe is a kind of a funny little story about your presentation that I was in the audience for and that many of many of our colleagues

1:14.1

were in the audience for it was a little meeting within the company um in January great and

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