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Street Cop Podcast

Passengers Are Not Free to Leave Motor Vehicle Stops

Street Cop Podcast

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🗓️ 16 October 2021

⏱️ 7 minutes

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Summary

In this archive episode, Dennis explains that passengers cannot simply leave a motor vehicle stop. Recorded on 04/18/2018. Brendlin V. California 2007 (Adopted by NJ) – A traffic stop entails a seizure of the driver even though the purpose of the stop is limited and the resulting detention is quite brief. The stop also entails a seizure of every passenger in the vehicle along with the driver. Passengers unlawfully leaving a legal motor vehicle stop will be arrested and charged with obstructing. https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FBrendlin_v._California%3Ffbclid%3DIwAR0JulugpUB4AxqYf8bl6gkdk9lz_-aaI64BWcbxTOEIciI7ZBrlNOA9s7kandh=AT23tVj7qI2CL_J4VyrIAZat8hoZDr3cUy4wbvCG40SEU_mpjgAyuEVyeuSn7aaM6eB4Us8xgQKuh9HDKHhb4caz3yf48pIsOUCXJ20lEwBQpP3P0xUr8gdKrjQ1r3RhLyhQL2ANlj3eXvkuigand__tn__=-UK-R (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendlin_v._California) State of NJ in the interest of DK 2006 - In DK the court held that a passengers incidental detention as a result of a valid motor vehicle stop is “Unchallengeable,” for, if a stop for a motor vehicle violation is reasonable, the police do not have to show an independent basis for detaining the passengers, unless the detention goes beyond what is incident to a brief motor vehicle stop.” See State v. Hickman https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Flaw.justia.com%2Fcases%2Fnew-jersey%2Fappellate-division-published%2F2003%2Fa6037-01-opn.html%3Ffbclid%3DIwAR25loTO6IEjB43E9MyzVeTWfelxLo-lAwQngTd_5_0f3lIFqanbilh2uiQandh=AT0m8yi7NQSRMWR_XibotYbQoPx9TsCyjRq2A77K8mHB85SCLWeYl18ZwbsNu9Gq8q6H-9OTD02leUpArAcC2V84L0XOTPtKFszY6g7jF3bG5JBonu409e0jDRml3mDfOleAVfAzB35L_CzqjAand__tn__=-UK-R (https://law.justia.com/.../appella.../2003/a6037-01-opn.html) State of NJ v Sloane 2008 - https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fcaselaw.findlaw.com%2Fnj-supreme-court%2F1146795.html%3Ffbclid%3DIwAR0s8jU1aiZWcHBGtgS23tm8PjTjkhvO7ZxVXJzACexe8rcKkykrIP_pEGkandh=AT2mlVjPSQC4LC9IiE9yIZNHNprcNvDKB4PDzEj8NsN99XMf7v57rnERrNWIgc7yIGFTuWwYwJmeTCTAUsz1BoAgpQiKI1yPPO1x5TrrCczunWMvDQZEn0I6UJeDqwyq1qqu1hu-GOfg7Mft7Qand__tn__=-UK-R (https://caselaw.findlaw.com/nj-supreme-court/1146795.html) All of those reasons lead to the conclusion that when a police officer conducts a traffic stop of a private vehicle, the passenger as well as the driver are seized under both the federal and state constitutions. That holding is consistent with the majority of state court rulings on the issue. See State v. Bowers, 334 Ark. 447, 976 S.W.2d 379, 380-82 (1998); State v. Haworth, 106 Idaho 405, 679 P.2d 1123, 1124 (1984); People v. Bunch, 207 Ill.2d 7, 277 Ill.Dec. 658, 796 N.E.2d 1024, 1029 (2003), cert. denied, 541 U.S. 959, 124 S.Ct. 1712, 158 L.Ed.2d 399 (2004); State v. Eis, 348 N.W.2d 224, 226 (Iowa 1984); State v. Hodges, 252 Kan. 989, 851 P.2d 352, 361-62 (1993); State v. Carter, 69 Ohio St.3d 57, 630 N.E.2d 355, 360 (1994) (per curiam); State v. Harris, 206 Wis.2d 243, 557 N.W.2d 245, 251 (1996); see also Hickman, supra, 335 N.J.Super. at 634, 763 A.2d 330. But see People v. Jackson, 39 P.3d 1174, 1184-86 (Colo.2002) (en banc); State v. Mendez, 137 Wash.2d 208, 970 P.2d 722, 729 (1999) (en banc). Applying that standard, Sloane was seized at the time of the traffic stop. When Officer Muzyka ordered Moore to stop her vehicle on the suspicion that she was driving with a suspended license, Sloane's travel was curtailed. Sloane then got out of the car, and the officer promptly ordered him to return to it. Sloane complied. Apart from what any reasonable person might have thought, Sloane was, in fact, not free to leave. Although he was a passenger and not the driver, he was temporarily “seized.”

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One, one, one, definitely,

0:02.0

I don't have to go play.

0:04.0

Uh-huh.

0:05.0

You trying to be a street cop.

0:10.0

You trying to be a street cop? All right, I'm going to take a quick few minutes. I'm put up a wide content up today. I'm going to take a quick few minutes.

0:13.6

I've put up a lot of content up today.

0:14.9

We put two videos of today.

0:17.0

We've a lot of stuff working here at Street Cop Training headquarters.

0:19.0

We've got some decorations soon in the background.

0:21.3

Just trying to catch my old paperwork and keep content flowing for everybody.

0:24.0

But one thing I want to address is usually when I get a message from somebody, it gives me good content to come on and do a video,

0:31.3

just to remind everybody of one thing. And I've heard this a lot and I always

0:34.8

want to constantly address it because you may have gone to an academy, you may have heard from a

0:38.7

supervisor, maybe have heard for somebody who has a position where they've been tasked with the duty of giving you and providing you with the

0:45.0

correct information on a certain topic. Now this topic to me is not only important to know but it's dangerous

0:52.2

if you if you screw it up and don't

0:53.5

follow what the law has given us to do and this is probably for every state not

0:57.2

just the state of New Jersey and I don't know why I hear this I have no idea where it comes from and I often ask myself at what point

1:06.6

when somebody said this to somebody else, especially somebody who was deemed with the task of educating people,

1:12.0

did common sense go out the

1:13.4

friggin window. So let's talk about this real quick. When you stop a car

1:19.2

passengers cannot get out of a motor vehicle and just walk away. We have plenty of

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