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Because he also had an incredible spiritual awakening and he is an expert on explaining the intersection of science and spirituality, how our consciousness and free will are fundamental to our existence here on the planet. And in the first part of our conversation with him, he explained how the universe was alive and conscious from its onset, how reality is not what we think it is and even not what we've been told to think it is. In part two of our conversation with Federico, we're going to talk about love and how it fits into a world that is ruled by capitalism. We're going to talk about the next evolution in medicine and how we can better understand oneness, consciousness, and free will and how that can literally change our health. We're also going to talk about what he thinks about collective consciousness, the afterlife, and simulation theory. He says, we're in a game that we created. We cannot wait for you to hear part two of our conversation with Federico Fajin. Break it down. You talk about this rationality inspired by heart. You know, you talk about this incredible heart opening, and I can't help but think of the ways that we describe I love human terms. Right? That we feel like we're going to like float away. And you have to bring yourself back to earth when you're in love, right? You're floating. Your head is in the clouds. And it's so interesting that we're talking about gravity being this grounding, this grounding universal quantum force that is saying there is a way to come back to a source, which I would hold is this, this oneness that we're talking about. I also love that you say that quantum physics actually doesn't describe an outer reality. It's describing the inner reality. And again, most of us would think, I'm not a physicist. I don't know what he's talking about, but the fact is, we've had to create words, and you talk about this, and this is what I love about this book, before we get to your next book, is you take us from literally the beginning of evolution, the evolution of the universe, and also the evolution of us. Where is life? Life for scientism starts with a living cell, which nobody knows how it could possibly be made by random variation in selection, because there is no selection yet, but never mind that. But the point is that you start with self. Now, life is the first act of love of one that wants to know itself and creates fields. Those fields are parts all of one. Those fields are parts all of one. That feels, since one is holistic, you cannot create part of itself. You must create a totality of itself, but with the point of view, with the way which you know in you itself, when it created a field, that's self-knowing, that is the identity, that is the identity of the field and that remains for the forever in that field. And so what you describe is if you go from however we got that first single-celled organism, if you go from that like we had to come from somewhere, meaning there was a mother of a mother of a mother, right? You can keep tracing it back. And at a certain point, your brain starts to bend, which is why in certain religious traditions, you don't get to study these things unless you have a certain level of intellectual sophistication because it will make you go crazy, right? But at some point, we got to the humans that we are, but you talk about the evolution of language. What was language? It was the decision by a group of some species to say, we have more to communicate and we need more ways to do it. But it's completely arbitrary. And for those of us who speak more than one language, we know that it's an arbitrary collection of sounds and phonemes and gestures that we say we're just trying to describe meaning. And ultimately, the thing that we have to get to is how do you perpetuate the species, right? And for Homo sapiens, we get to insert love into that perpetuation of species, right? Yeah, but, but you know, in this view, we created the first cells. We fields created the first cells to have an experience collectively in this reality that we are creating. So they don't come from variations in selection randomness. There is no randomness. Randomness is only ignorance. That's it. All ignorance. But also the languages, why do we need languages? Because we want to communicate the meaning that we find. But the meaning is endogenous. It comes from within. It doesn't come from without. Then it creates symbols, which are structures outside in space and time. Those are structures that we create to manifest the meaning that we have inside. But the creativity is within this spiritual part. It's not in the body and not even in the mind. The mind creates, the mind does computation about what we have learned. And so it makes prediction. But the predictions are not reality, predictions are probabilities. The reality is created by our choices as spiritual beings, the choose to go to manifest this thing or something else. So that is, that is very, again, very different than the way we imagine things. What we imagine things is that there are laws and therefore the laws govern the world. But the laws are the byproduct. The laws are simply saying that there is coherence within one and that coherence requires certain laws, certain coherences that are reflected into the mathematical laws. But the mathematical law don't dictate what has to happen. Coming from an entrepreneurial background being in business business being a winner take all attitude whereby you have to corner markets and get as much market share as possible, get ahead of your competition. Where does love fit in to a notion of a new version of capitalism? Once we start to accept that cooperation is the only game in town, as opposed to competition, we have to rethink everything that we do because we start from kids, we start to compete. We are told to compete. I mean, the education, even in the family, we are sort of, you know, without even knowing where to set one against the other sometimes, right? And then, you know, schools, you know, business, everything is about competition. And of course, competition leads to war. And, you know, God knows how many wars we have lived through, you know, in our many lives. We basically have to change the entire structure of how we interact with each other. So I'm not there yet, meaning, you know, I know that that has to occur, we have to figure out how to do this. But, you know, before we can do that, people have to understand that they are no longer bodies, because if they think that they are bodies, automatically you go into the survival of the fittest. Then we have to have an experience that you are not the body. Exactly like I had and everybody can do that. The point is that the difference is that I don't set myself as a special guy yet to believe me. No, no, no, no, no. Everyone of everyone has to experience its own connection with one. Without that experience, we will not believe because the weight of experience that we think that what this physical reality is, the only reality is so powerful that unless you have it even more powerful experience that tells you that it's not so, you're not going to change. You're not going to not give any chance, given the chance. You won't even be able to think about the new paradigm without the embodied experience of realizing there's another way of being. This is where people see the divide. That there are those of us that are going to compete and get ahead,

and they're going to trample on all of the working class and all those other people, and they're going to be having their yachts and all the other things that rich people do. And then there's the spiritual people who are going to be ridiculed, right, for believing that there's more than just what we see and what we experience, and there's this sort of divide. Yeah, but also the spiritual people are not, you know, they would live in their own world. And so they, you know, they kind of say, well, the stuff is not real. No, the reality is body, mind, spirit. Everything has to work together. And so both have to make a move toward joining together. Unfortunately, they stay separate, like to quantum physics and general relativity. They don't want to come together in some ways. But because everybody wants this own way, but no, we have to cross that divide we We have to merge. Merge is there. I will refuse them. There is no longer a boundary between science and spirituality. What science has that spirituality doesn't have much of is rationality. And the principles of experiments prove whatever theory you have, because physics lives and dies on experiments. If you may have the most beautiful theory, but if the theory makes a prediction that doesn't happen, the theory has to be scrapped. So the experiment is more fundamental in science than in theory. In spirituality, it has to be the same. We have to reach similar states and we have to be able to talk about it. And we have to be able to see that they are not longer objective like the outer reality, but they are subjective, but the subjectivity overlaps enough to be able to say, yeah, we're talking about the same thing but it is, it comes from experience in our experience, that's where the joining can come and that's why spirituality has to be the right word, not religion because there are are 200 religions in the world. They better combine themselves first. They can even agree with themselves. How can we create science in religion? There's a religion. I mean, you have to have 200 science in religions then, because all the religions are different. So that is only one physics in the. So, at least physics has already arrived to a level of unity because everybody agrees because of the principles of physics are very clear. You know, you have a theory, theory makes prediction, and you make an experiment. If the experiment, you know, says that theory is right, well, even if the theory says something that appears crazy, reality is that crazy. That's exactly what exactly the last hundred years, because when to visit makes predictions that nobody thought that they could exist that kind of reality. Now we know that there is a reality much, much, much more, much more different than what it's all. My and Vialix right there and supported by optimizers. I struggled to get good quality sleep and I just thought like, ugh, it's stress. But I learned during perimenopause and menopause, your hormones shift, and it affects your magnesium levels. Low magnesium makes everything harder, not just sleep, but focus, mood, stress tolerance. That's why we added magnesium breakthrough by by optimizers to our nightly routine. It's a blend of seven different forms of magnesium designed to support relaxation and overall sleep quality. Try it, see if you wake up more rest and refreshed. You've got nothing to lose and a lot to gain. Bi optimizers offers a 365 day, no questions asked, money back guarantee. Magnesium breakthrough is a fantastic way to improve that hormonal imbalance that especially happens with magnesium. And then you have better focus, you have better sleep hygiene in general. Bi optimizers makes it so easy. Here's what you get when you go to bioptimizers.com slash breaker and use the code breaker. 15% off your entire order and a free bottle of mass signs. That's bioptimizers. Best selling digestive enzyme added to your order automatically when you use our exclusive code. That's a $20 product free on top of your discount. This is a limited time offer while supplies last. You cannot get this on Amazon. You can't get it in stores. The offer exists in one place. Our link our code. That's it. So if you were already thinking about trying it, this is the sign. Go to bioptimizers.com slash breaker, use the code breaker, grab it before it's gone. Make 2026 the year you finally start sleeping again. This episode is sponsored by Wondering Jews, an open door media brand. If you've ever found yourself feeling like you have more questions than answers, you're in good company. The Jewish people have been like that for thousands of years.

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Find it on your favorite podcast app or on YouTube and make sure to hit subscribe. Check out wondering Jews with Michal and Noam, podcast and subscribe at unpacked.bio-nmx. You've talked a lot and your book includes so much about the differences between computers and humans and the differences between biological systems and those that are, let's say, being utilized for artificial intelligence. And what you talk about is some of the beauty that every interaction that cells have is so much more than the sum of its parts. You talk about homeostasis, you talk about metabolic processes, and it's not enough to say, oh, cells are more than the sum of their parts, you're talking about, and again, you can think about this on a human level. It's not just the individuals that are more than the sum of their parts. It's the interactions, the processes that occur when these units interact is so much more than you could even imagine in the greatest fantasy.

So can you talk about the cell being this microscopic, you know, beautiful quantum classical system, but the human being this macroscopic one? And what that means practically for us. Basically, you know, if you look at the organization of the body, the organization of our body is, We are 30 to 50 trillion cells and each cells as I mentioned even earlier Is a part hole of the entire organism because they all came out of a single cell and each cell of this 30 plus trillion that we have has the same genome So he has the same fundamental capacity to express as the original cell that created the entire organism. That's amazing. I mean, right now there are, you know, in quantum biology, you know, so in advanced biology, there are people that can reverse, you know, a cell that is specialized can become, can be made to be a stem cell, which is like a planet potentiary cell. They can create any other cell, reverting a sense to become closer to the original cell, they created the eternal organism. Can you do that with the computer? Is the computer organized the same way? Not even close! Not even close! The computer is made of switches on off, on off, on off. That's it! At the best, the computer can know its own state, which is I'm open or I'm closed. That's it! There is nothing else for the computer As cell has the potential to understand the other cells because they have the same making You can explain the operation Like a machine by you know by deterministic things But in a in living system the the cells make decisions which are you know highly probabilistic and You can only predict probability because the cells are quantum and classical system. Each cell doesn't work with the principle of classical physics. They work with the principle of quantum physics primarily. And then certain processes are closer to classical and other are purely quantum. And we do not understand how a cell works as an informational system. That's why my book I speak about live information, which is a different type of information between quantum information and classical information. That information can explain, in the future, we are able to explain how living cells are informational systems, not biochemical systems. We have studied cells as if they were biochemistry. No, not even close. We can only explain a tiny bit, but cells are connected directly. All our cells are connected with the field that we are. So when they feel that we are communicated with the body, it doesn't communicate with the piece of the system. The communication is in parallel with the entire body. So the potentiality to self-healing, for example, by people that are developed to eat really are enormous. But yet we have to start by changing the idea of what we are. If we think that we are the body, that is, the only intervention has to come from the outside, but you know, we are the field that we are can affect the body in ways that we have still to find out. So if we approach the cell and the biological systems as not just biochemical processes and those that obey the laws of classical physics as informational systems, right? If they are informational systems, this would be support for the notion that Bruce Lipton talks about that the cell is operating as a microcosm of the entire organism. You know, we're talking about holographic systems where the part is like the whole. So changing the environment of the cell as it were, creating more positivity, whatever

that looks like on a cellular level, is what has the potential you're saying to then heal the body in ways that, let's say, Western medicine may not be able to touch. Right now, we have to do it from the outside because we don't know how we don't have develop enough enough of our own, you know, our own soul, if you want to call it that way, but our own spiritual aspects. So the next sort of evolution in medicine would be for all of us to have a better collective understanding of this sort of oneness and the deeper reality that consciousness and free will are providing, so that even medicine could be affected by the ways that we approach the cellular systems. It's fascinating. That's right. And the way that you approach the cellular system is you start with love again because you know, and the medicine that we practice today moves away from love because it's all about machines. We are repairing a machine. And that's it. And the doctor that looks at the computer doesn't even look at you. And I ask questions and type on the computer. This is why people are going to energy workers and healers, which some of them are legitimate and some of them are not, but the notion that there is a spiritual solution to what is going on that is presenting itself as a biological one. And sometimes it works in ways that appear to be miracles and they're not miracles because it shows that there is something that can come from the inside out, not only from the outside. But besides, when I say outside, the in is a different one. Because when I say outside, there is nothing in, other than organs, which is still outside. It is part of the outside in my meaning. the inside is not in the body, the inside is the inner reality or meaning of qualia and meaning. That's not in the body, it's in a field that controls the body. Okay, so unfortunately the words can in this see us. We hear a lot from people who listen, who are trying to understand this, right? They're trying to change their life. They may be suffering in this moment. What I'm hearing and what I believe to be true is that the first step to accessing a spiritual awakening, to accessing the ability to start to heal oneself through adjusting the field is to start to change the mindset, first believe it as possible and second to start to understand the mechanism that we're actually changing something when we start to invoke love, when we start to meditate, when we start to have a belief that something is possible, we're not just wishful thinking, we're actually changing the frequency that is everything that surrounds

us, which then impacts the cell. In my experience, the first step is to take responsibility for what happens in your life. That's the lesson that I learned by being CEO of a company, in fact, more than one company, where the good and the bad that happens in the company in one way or another, I had a lot to do, by doing something or even more, by not doing something when I should have done something, that is an idea that in the beginning was hard to grasp, because it is mostly by not doing what you should be doing that you attract to yourself, suffering and whatever. Okay, for example, it was not taking care of myself. For example, my inner reality that I became very estranged for myself and I was unhappy with my life. For example, it was not because I did something wrong, it's because I didn't do what I was supposed to do. So it is very important to take that responsibility and it was exactly because I have taken responsibility on my life. When I was suffering, I said, somehow I created that for myself. I didn't look outside somebody to blame for my state, but I said, what did I do? I want to know what did I do to create this to myself? Who am I? Why is that going? Why is that going on? With that sense,

with that sense of responsibility. This is my life. I am in charge of my life. That's very important. Because if you don't go there, you will always find outside the problems, the effects, you, they always come from the outside. That's why you go to the outside to find the cure. But once you know that what you know your happiness or not depends on you from your interiority, for your conscious self, to your inner experience, the meaning, the love that you have within for yourself and for mothers, that stuff. Then you can find the solution. But if you don't, if you, you had to reach their first, otherwise you would always look at some kind of magic inside or outside to solve your problem. But it's not you. We'd like to talk a little bit about your new book, which we just got a little taste of. And one of the quotes that I wanted you to talk about as you introduce us to what this next book is, we're not matter, we're not mind, we are spirit that is meaning love, joy and peace. And if we want to have a better future, we must all radically change direction together and to do this, we must first change our minds about who we are. I inverted those intentionally, talk a little bit about what this means and what this new book is going to introduce us to that is not covered in irreducible, which I can't imagine there's anything left because I love this so much. But tell us what we can expect. Well, I mean, my next book is actually not in English yet. I mean, I had translated it will be up in the open in six months or so. Even people who speak English might think that this is not written in English. It's very dense. That idea is an idea that will be my fourth book. It is an idea that the theory that I have can actually be explained very effectively with the consular body, mind, and spirit, which I also illustrated earlier, where you have essentially, you can, these three aspects are not separable, they're not separable. But so when we concentrate with one, we can not lose sight that the other two are also present we tend to when we tend to concentrate on one we tend to separate the others because the you know the way we write and the way we think tends to you know it tends to work that way because we focus on something but in reality body, mind, the spirit are three in in in separable aspects which have overlaps, like I mentioned before, I mentioned six overlaps plus the overlap in the center which is all three together which is the essence of one essentially. That's the white light, the love, peace, joy, meaning, all that stuff. It's where we want to get to, you know, within ourselves in communicating and so on, to get to that meaning that unites that brings us back to one. The next book is Beyond Invisible and Beyond Invisible is actually a conversation. So it's easier to read and allows me to repeat things in different contexts without being accused or repeating myself. The context determines the meaning of, I mean, even particles, when the property of the particles depend on the interaction the particles has. So reality is not built with things that are absolute. Everything is relative to each other. Mine be Alex Brecht and it's supported by optimizers. You know, I struggled to get good quality sleep and I just assumed it was stress. But as I learned, during paramanopause and menopause, your hormones shift in a way that affect your magnesium levels. And low magnesium, it makes everything harder, not just sleep, focus, mood, your tolerance for stress. That's why I have added magnesium breakthrough by by optimizers to my nightly routine. It's a blend of seven different forms of magnesium designed to support relaxation and overall sleep quality. Try it, see if you wake up more rest and refreshed, you've got nothing to lose and a lot to gain. Bi optimizers offers a 365 day. No questions asked money back guarantee. Magnesium breakthrough is a huge breakthrough to improve hormonal balance, to help with focus, decrease brain fog, improve sleep hygiene overall. Bi optimizers makes it very easy. Jonathan, what do they get when they go to bioptimizers.com slasher and use the code breaker? You get 50% off your entire order and a free bottle of massimes. Bioptimizer is best selling digestive enzyme. That'll be added to your order automatically when you use our exclusive code. That's a $20 product free on top of your discount already. This is a limited time offer and while supplies last, you can't get it on Amazon, you can't get it in stores.

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We really try and understand the science of many things that a lot of people would consider outside of science. I want to ask you a few things and I want you to give us your most honest answer both from your scientific and your spiritual perspective. Okay, I'm going to start with kind of a softball one. Collective consciousness. Is there a collective consciousness? There is a collective consciousness. I mean, in a sense, we are a collective consciousness. We are fields of fields of fields of fields of fields of fields. So we exist with a comprehension, which is all the comprehensions of lower levels, like atoms are more than the parts that they compose them, and the new cleanser more than the protons and neutrons, but then the neutrons are more than the quarks and the gluons and this kind of thing. What happens when we die? Is there an afterlife? Does consciousness exist after we die? Yeah, I think that I believe the essence of the near death experiences of which there are hundreds of thousands, you know, known, and hundreds of books written about. So people don't believe they should read at least one or two of those books and have a sense of it. Because they are, you know, their coherence of what happens is so strong that, you know, those are people that don't have the body doesn't work anymore, the brain doesn't work and, you know, they have extraordinary experiences, change their life, how can that be that you, you know, you have an experience that is so It is so powerful that changes your life and you were not even functioning as a body. I mean, if we are a body, that needs to be explained and you cannot explain it by just eliminating it like a scientism does. If you don't, if something that you can approve something, forget it, it doesn't exist. Well, that's too convenient. Are we in a simulation? What do you think about simulation theory? No, we're not in a simulation, but this reality, however, is mostly virtual reality in the sense that but it's a virtual reality that we create. Now, we not in a simulator created by somebody else and we are just little avatars there thinking that we are, you know, the we are what we are. No, that's not, this is a game that we have created and we are in the game that we created. So we are actor but also the creators of this game and we learn from this game to create other games. So I mean this is just you know but a lot of this reality that we think is real is actually a construction of information that is experienced as a reality in the field. So it doesn't exist here, it exists in the field in our consciousness. But because the quantum states of the field are not separable from the field, I cannot say that this is virtual. Virtual reality is what you get with the computer for example, full virtual reality, where the bits of the computer are entirely our creations. It don't exist. We have created them. And we are the ones, our conscious, the ones that gives reality to it when we put a headset. And we see space and objects and things going around and we look around and it looks like it's a real reality and it's all done by bits of the computer. That is virtual reality. That does not exist in the same sense that the game that I was talking about earlier exists. We create our experience, therefore we can adjust our experience. So in that way, we can adjust the game. Some posit that the fields that all consciousness is a part of were created by some external force, which would be the potential for the simulation, not that our personal experiences are simulated, but that

the entire creation of consciousness and all of the fields that make up it may have an external creator. It's like, you know, my body is being created by a cell and every cell on my body is a copy of that cell that created this body.

So I'm self-created. That is not a creator. I'm a part-hole of one. So I'm indivisible from one. So I'm one in some way, but not one in the sense that I'm all of one. I'm a part-hole of one. It's an holographic principle. It's not made like computers are made. Machines are not made that way. They're not made of parts-hole. They're made of parts. They're separable. About the evolution of technology, you created the microprocessor before you had your big spiritual awakening. And so it's a two part question. One, do you feel like that information was given to you in a way to have that breakthrough to create this world changing technology? And two, how do you see the evolution of technology is it relates to our experience of ourselves to either know ourselves. Some will say it's helped us know ourselves better, having conversations like this, being able to share information. While at the same time, it's distracted us from ourselves, increasing the ability to check out, to have digital distraction and create companies that their sole goal is to take every moment of our free time and attention. Perhaps the biggest invention was the invention of the Silicon Gate technology that allowed to make the micro-browser. That I did my first job when I came in this country. I was 26 working for third child. And that technology was five times faster than the previous technology was reliable. You was, you could put twice as many transistors and it had about 500 times less leakage current. So you could make dynamic random access memories. You can do some, a lot of memories before, but with this technology you could do everything to make a computer in a single chip. And the first step was the memory, the dynamic RAM, and the microprocessor. Microprocessor also used the dynamic RAM inside, because the static RAM were too many transistors. So that is how I did this thing. And it was a number of intuitions that allowed me to do that. And then of course a lot of work. But also the intuition was that the microprocessor, where a new step in the evolution of computers that would allow with this technology to miniaturize and have computers everywhere and so on. So that was something that I understood and I wanted to really create as fast as possible. And in the early days was the non-understand, the management, the non-understand, the microprocessor were the future. They thought memories were the future. Computers, the big computers, they did not understand that the little thing could be a big thing. But we have now, in one chip, we have now computers that couldn't even fit in a skyscraper for Christ's sake. I mean, in a chip like this now. So I decided, in my second generation of microprosters, the 80-80 of Intel, that it took me nine months to convince them my management to let me do it. And then when I done that, there were six times faster than better architecture than faster than the previous ones. They still were wasting their time to get the next one. So I decided to start my own company So that's it. I have an I have enough of this so I started my first company But I log developed the Z80 that became the best seller. I mean, it's still in production today almost 50 years after it was introduced So but but that compared to what I'm doing now It's like child child play in a sense It's a child playing in a sense that it only covers this stuff, you know, this stuff. But we are beyond measure, you know. That's what excites me is that if we wake up to our own reality, the machines that we do is already the brain, our brain has about 100 trillion parameters. Chargity has 3 trillion parameters. So an our brain consumes 20 watts of power. Nobody can build a computer better than the brain, but not even close because our brain can do things that no computer in existence can do, even by itself, never mind by the connection with the field that we are, because it's like having a programmer and a conscious being connected with the brain. And the brain is just a machine, the brain is a machine. So the machine does what the programmer wants. It's on board, all is on board. So it's a new world. So technology just used the way we use technology today, without a sense of who we are, can become dangerous. And that's the danger that I see is both in the nuclear technology that now enars in all of tens of thousands of atomic bombs that any crazy person could use. So that's a very dangerous thing to have sitting around. And of course, AI will become a major problem or a major abundance if it is used right, but to be used right, we need to change it, yeah, we are. Because if we think that we are here to compete and to beat the

less fortunate of us, that's not the way the technology will help. It will actually help

those guys to destroy our humanity and that's not the game that I would like to see.

Federico Fajin, it's really such a pleasure to get to speak to you. We're so grateful for your time. Thank you. It's a pleasure. I'm curious how you heard his explanation of how the cell is impacted by changing our perspective and changing the state around us. Look, I think this is a really important addition to so many of our conversations about, in particular, the kind of loving kindness meditation, the kind of focus on manifesting or placing yourself in an environment that feels like you've already achieved it. In the meditation that I led people in,'s over on sub-stack, you know, that's what we talked about. Imagine something beautiful and create the emotional state as if you're there. It's very, very powerful. And I love how many different places we're getting for people to pull from support for that, whether it's Bruce Lipton, you know, from this more kind of, you know, cell biology perspective or

it's Fidrico Fagine from this, you know, quantum and like microcosmic and macrocosmic, you

know, quantum collective consciousness sort of perspective.

I'm super fascinated with this concept, you know, of love.

Again, that's just the word you put on it.

Like don't think about how you feel about the person that you're dating and oh, I'm in love with them. What does I have to do with it? We're talking about the state of feeling joy, peace, serenity that you are loved, that you are taken care of. That's a different kind of, you know, what's he's talking about us, almost like a fundamental foundation of the universe

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