Part Two: How AI Chatbots Became Cult Leaders
Behind the Bastards
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🗓️ 7 May 2026
⏱️ 78 minutes
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Robert concludes his explanation of how AI chatbots replicate cult dynamics in the brains of some vulnerable users.
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| 0:00.0 | Quarzo Media |
| 0:02.8 | Welcome back to Behind the Bastards, a podcast that you're listening to right now. |
| 0:13.1 | This is a show about the worst people in all of history, but this week we're talking about |
| 0:17.5 | how a series of decisions by the people who make LOM chatbots has given AI's |
| 0:23.8 | AI chatbots or whatever the ability to inadvertently recreate a cult leader dynamics from first |
| 0:31.3 | principles without any kind of intent behind them in a manner that is both like random and |
| 0:36.4 | automated. |
| 0:38.2 | Blake Wexler, my guest. |
| 0:39.9 | How are you doing? |
| 0:40.5 | How are we feeling? |
| 0:41.3 | I'm scared. |
| 0:42.6 | I am also optimistic that there's almost sadly certainly going to be multiple follow-up episodes |
| 0:49.0 | to this. |
| 0:49.6 | So I hope you'll bring me back for the next two decades if the world lasts that long. But yeah, no, |
| 0:55.6 | there's going to be an incident. We're going to start an experiment whereby you get increasingly |
| 1:01.6 | involved with a chat bot and lose your mind over a period of years. I'll just keep interviewing |
| 1:06.1 | you until you're, you know, you completely break from reality. Not a problem. I don't know. |
| 1:10.6 | That'll be useful for some reason. |
| 1:12.2 | Yeah, we'll find out a way to make it work. |
| 1:14.0 | There's nowhere but up. |
| 1:14.9 | I'll sell a Netflix series or something. |
| 1:19.5 | Amen. |
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