And we're back to Behind the Bastards, the podcast that's about the people who are bad, which is today, this week, Dr. James Grigsden, and the broader industry, cottage industry he helps ignite of psychiatrists who go to court and be like yeah man absolutely

kill that motherfucker um which is only slightly less direct than the actual job was uh with us again

our guest stephen montesselli stephen how you doing uh i'm you know i'm i'm doing i'm doing

you doing i well yeah i'm here mm-hmm what are you doing uh Yeah, I'm, you know, I'm doing. You're doing? I'm doing.

Well, yeah, I'm here.

Mm-hmm.

What are you doing?

We're about to talk about some really, really uplifting, heartening,

um, trust-inducing stuff, like makes me really love the system and the medical profession as a whole.

It's good. I mean, you know, here's the thing. What's frustrating is the medical profession as a whole

is trying to do the right thing here. Like they keep being like, this guy's a crank. This guy's a

crank. It just doesn't matter for a long time. This is kind of an early example of the hell we're in now,

where it's like all of the people who know anything about, for example, climate,

or, for example, how infectious diseases work or anything else to do with, like, vaccines and medicine.

All of these, like, people who know. All of these like people who know things,

space travel, people who know things about that are being like, nah, this is all, this is really

fucked up. Like you're shooting us in the foot. All of these different cuts to research are horrible.

Everything that's being done is going to make life worse for everybody. But the only people

that matter are the ones who are saying, nah-uh.

And you kind of get an early version.

This is like a prologue for all of the hell that we're in right now,

this like anti-science bullshit.

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