Part One: Dr. Death: The Texas Death Row Psychiatrist Who Killed So Many People
Behind the Bastards
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🗓️ 29 July 2025
⏱️ 78 minutes
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Summary
Robert sits down with Steven Monacelli to tell the grisly tale of a Texas psychiatrist who invented an industry based on convincing juries to kill people.
(2 Part series)
sources:
TRAVELS WITH Dr. DEATH | Vanity Fair | May 1990
James Grigson Testimony Linked to Miscarriages of Justice
Effect of "Dr. Death" and his testimony lingers
Flawed Trials Lead to Death Chamber | Death Penalty Information Center
Texas halts execution of accomplice tainted by 'Dr Death' testimony - BBC News
James Grigson Obituary (2004) - Dallas, TX - Dallas Morning News
The Law; Expert Witness Is Unfazed by 'Dr. Death' Label - The New York Times
Law: They Call Him Dr. Death | TIME
Texas 'Dr. Death' retires after 167 capital case trials - Washington Times
On Texas' Death Row, Ramiro Gonzales Gets Help From Doctor Who Condemned Him | The Marshall Project
Dr. Death, This Side of the Twilight Zone: Estelle v. Smith (1981) — MAX WACHTEL, PHD
Texas Study Challenges 'Violent Behavior' Predictions - Los Angeles Times
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| 0:00.0 | Callsor Media. |
| 0:04.6 | Time to party. |
| 0:06.3 | It's not time to party. |
| 0:07.5 | It's time to be sad. |
| 0:09.2 | Welcome to Behind the Bastards, a podcast that exists to make your week worse so that you're more irritable and frustrated around your friends and family and at work. |
| 0:20.0 | And just a less happy person you know |
| 0:22.6 | all together that's our job here at behind the bastards stop talking about us stop talking about |
| 0:27.2 | for some reason this this is profitable uh my guest today stephen monicelli stephen |
| 0:34.3 | how you doing oh i'm pretty awful yeah pretty awful yeah Yeah. Yeah. That's the general vibe. Everybody seems to be awful. Did Robert get your last name right? What did he say? I blacked out. I said Monticelli. I mean, it's Monticelli or Monticelli. It just depends on, you know, which side of Ellis Island you're on. |
| 0:54.8 | Fair enough. Fair enough. That's right. The right side. I could do like a Monticelli. |
| 1:00.4 | Like a little finger gesture. Yeah. Because you're Italian. Oh, yeah. No, no, no. Stephen and I can both |
| 1:05.3 | say the two slurs that Italians get. Yeah. Anyone can. Anyone can do it. It's always acceptable. It's always fine. I feel very outnumbered today because I don't have a beard and you're both Italian and the blonde hair. I'm not, I, you know, there's, there's, there's, there's some wonderful things about having Italian heritage. But I think when your country invents fascism, everyone gets to make fun of your |
| 1:28.3 | accent forever. |
| 1:29.5 | Like, that's just a fair rule. |
| 1:30.8 | That's just a fair rule. |
| 1:32.1 | It hasn't even really been that long. |
| 1:34.0 | We need a little more time. |
| 1:34.8 | Less than a century, or just a little over a century since it started, I guess. |
| 1:40.3 | Stephen, how do you feel about Texas, the state that we both came from and that you still |
| 1:46.4 | reside in? Oh, complicated feelings. Very complicated feelings, Robert. Do we have time for that? |
| 1:53.1 | I'm not sure. Well, that's what we're going to be talking about all week. Specifically, |
| 1:56.8 | we're going to be talking about one of the things Texas is most famous for. I'm not talking about Shiner Bach beer. |
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