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Behind the Bastards

Part Two: Dire Wolves, Dr. George Church & The De-Extinction Grift

Behind the Bastards

Cool Zone Media and iHeartPodcasts

News, Society & Culture, History

4.415.7K Ratings

🗓️ 5 June 2025

⏱️ 100 minutes

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Summary

Robert explores Dr. Church's weird history with eugenics adjacent projects, like the world's creepiest dating app, and how Colossal Biosciences was created and immediately used by the Trump administration as an excuse to attack the Endangered Species Act.

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0:00.0

Callsor Media

0:02.8

Oh, what's Epstein? My Jeffreys? I think I've done a version of that before. Should we not? Is that bad, Sophie?

0:12.3

He didn't like it the first time. Should we not start that way? How many chances do you get now that he's dead, you know?

0:18.7

Zero. We don't need to do that. That's right. That's right. That's the real tragedy,

0:22.6

you know? No. I wouldn't say tragedy.

0:27.9

Langston Kerman, our guest, how are you? I'm doing great. I'm excited to hear more.

0:33.2

This feels weird to say out loud, but I'm excited to hear more about Jeffrey Epstein and everything

0:37.5

he's been up to with our boy George Church.

0:39.4

Thankfully, we are past, we're done with the Epstein part of the story, because, you know,

0:44.3

how that ends.

0:46.5

Obviously, Bernie Sanders sneaks into prison and puts him out of his misery in order to

0:52.5

keep some certain people's secrets, uh, or something,

0:55.8

you know, nobody knows, right? Uh, some people are pretty sure they know. I don't know.

1:01.4

There's like, I would say like four or five people who probably know exactly what happened.

1:05.3

There's like four or five, yeah, maybe who know exactly. Yeah. Uh, yeah, I, I continue to be, you know, uh, an agnostic be, you know, an agnostic.

1:12.9

I'm an Epstein agnostic.

1:15.1

Okay.

1:16.0

Definitely, fucking George Church, I feel like, knows more that he's letting on.

1:20.8

He knows more than we do on this podcast, for sure.

1:23.3

Yeah, man.

1:23.9

But, yeah, maybe it was George, no, that'll get us soon.

1:26.4

We can't accuse this bioccientist of having Epstein guilt?

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