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Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff

Part One: Christopher B. Zeichmann on Radical Antiquity

Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff

Cool Zone Media and iHeartPodcasts

Society & Culture, History

4.7902 Ratings

🗓️ 2 March 2026

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Margaret interviews ancient historian Christopher B. Zeichmann about all the wild stuff happening in the ancient world and confirms her guesses about Spartacus and the Third Servile War

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.5

Guaranteed Human.

0:06.0

CoolZone Media.

0:09.1

Hello, and welcome to cool people who did cool stuff.

0:11.5

Your weekly reminder that when there's bad things happening, there's people trying to do good things,

0:16.2

including sometimes a lot of the bad things happened a really, really long time ago.

0:20.8

But there were still people trying to do good things in the face of the bad things happened a really, really long time ago. But there were still

0:21.7

people trying to do good things in the face of the bad things a really, really long time ago.

0:26.8

And you've probably noticed that because for the past month or two, that's like all three months.

0:32.9

I don't know. I've been obsessed with antiquity for the first time ever on this show since

0:36.2

I decided to deep dive the

0:38.5

druids for Halloween. And here I am three months later into this hole. And what I decided to do

0:44.2

for the very first time was bring on an actual historian and just ask that historian

0:50.3

and questions live. I don't know the answers to these questions yet, but I'm going to

0:55.3

ask our guest, Christopher Zeichmann. Hi, how are you? Great. Thanks so much for having me today.

1:01.1

Yeah, I am very excited. So anyone who has been listening to the last couple episodes,

1:07.5

you know, we did an episode recently about Spartacus and the third servile war, and it was one of

1:12.8

the first times I got to say, wow, this was actually cooler than I expected. And the point of that is that

1:19.4

you are the main source. Well, you have a book. It came out in 2025 from Pluto Press. It's called

1:24.7

Radical Antiquity. And that book is what made me decide to finally do a Spartacus episode and discover that they were way cooler than I thought. I'm glad to hear they could kind of open that door. I feel like it's sort of Spartacus, right? We see those movies in like the, what was it, like stars or something at a TV show, Spartacus a few years ago. I think they're like reviving it now, but like when you actually look at the data, then it's just fascinating, incredible stuff. I feel like scholars, even today, overlook quite a bit anyway. Yeah, and to just dive right into the Spartacus part of this. Yeah, yeah. I think it's the Braveheart effect, where we're all kind of burned out on movies like Braveheart,

2:01.5

or even Gladiator, which is on some level of retelling of the Spartacus story, right?

2:06.3

Where I just kind of, I just kind of expected Spartacus to kind of suck.

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