I worked with a high level coach this year and it was the first time that somebody had my attention and said,

I was talking about what clients wanted me to do or what prospective clients said that they were looking for.

And she looked at me and said, Kim, I'm really not interested in what anybody else is looking for.

I want to know from you, what do you want to be doing?

And I was like, I don't know.

Hey, my friend, welcome to the art of online business podcast. My name is Rick Mulready, and I'm an online

business coach. I'm an ads expert

and most importantly, I'm a dad. And this show is where we help established online course

creators and coaches create more profit, more impact, with less hustle. All right, let's get into it.

What's up, my friends? Welcome back to the podcast. Rick, I'm already here. Thank you, as always,

for coming to Hangout. Super appreciate you. So today's one of those interviews where as soon as I

hung up, I was like, or, you know, we hung up on our rotary phones.

No, as soon as I hit the stop button on our recording, I was like, I cannot wait to share this with you all.

Joining me on today's podcast, actually today's in part one and next week is part two.

Her name is Kim Wensel.

And Kim believes that we are more than our job titles. We are more than the CEO of our business, right? For over 12 years,

Kim has helped organizations and individuals find meaning in their work and build a connection

with others through data, storytelling,

copywriting, and personal branding. And today, Kim leads her own firm, which is called

Pattern of Purpose, where she advises entrepreneurs on how to communicate who they are and what

they believe on stage, on page, and in person. And so in our discussion between today and next week,

Kim is going to be sharing. We're talking all about how to focus on what makes you happy

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