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DEVIANT

(Part 5) Homicide and Hate: The Way Out

DEVIANT

Cold Open Media

Education, Documentary, Society & Culture, True Crime

4.8610 Ratings

🗓️ 21 October 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

(PART 5/5) In the final episode of the series, Andrew Iden continues his conversation with Tyler DiPeppe, a former member of Atomwaffen Division who now works to help others escape extremism. Tyler talks about leaving the movement, the work of de-radicalization, and the effort to build a life after hate. He also reflects on family, forgiveness, and what it means to live with the residue of old ideas while trying to help others move past them. This episode closes the story of Devon Arthurs, Brandon Russell, and the network of hate they helped build — and it points to what comes next: understanding the poison to find an antidote. Episodes weekly. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen. 👉 Support the show + get exclusive content: www.deviantpodcast.com 👉 Follow us on TikTok & Instagram: @deviantdopodcast Copyright 2025 Cold Open Media LLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is it. The world, as you know, it is over. Completely done. It's not about to be over. It's over.

0:09.1

Some of the scientists who helped build AI are now sounding the alarm.

0:13.5

I was selling AI as a great thing for decades, and I was wrong. I was wrong. There is a longer term existential threat

0:24.4

that will arise when we create digital beings that are more intelligent than ourselves. We have

0:30.1

no idea whether we can stay in control. While others say that AI will usher in unfathomable abundance,

0:36.6

I've always believed that it's going to be

0:38.2

the most important invention that humanity will ever make.

0:41.2

This really will be a world of abundance.

0:44.0

And among these fears and these fantasies,

0:46.6

we seek the story of our future.

0:49.4

Listen to the last invention

0:51.2

on Apple, Spotify, Amazon Music,

0:53.5

or wherever you get your podcast.

0:59.3

Hey, everybody. This is Dan Sommatovic, your other deviant host. This is the last part

1:04.3

of our five-part exploration of Devin Arthur's, extremism, the Adam Woffin Division,

1:11.4

all that bad stuff.

1:12.8

If you haven't already, make sure you go back and listen to the first four episodes

1:17.1

before listening to this one.

1:19.1

By the way, there is some language in this episode

1:21.3

that some listeners may find objectionable. When we left you last week, Tyler Depepepe, a one-time member of

1:39.1

Adam Woffin Division, was telling us a story that wasn't unlike the story of Devin Arthur's,

1:46.2

or Brandon Russell, for that matter. It's a story that wasn't unlike the story of Devin Arthur's, or Brandon Russell, for that matter.

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