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Leading Saints Podcast

Part 2 – The Therapy Buffet: Helping Individuals Heal Through Therapy

Leading Saints Podcast

Leading Saints

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.81.2K Ratings

🗓️ 31 August 2021

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Steven Shields, ACMHC CET1, is a therapist who acts as a guide to help others heal from trauma and addiction. As founder of Unashamed Unafraid, a non-profit organization, he hosts the podcast that shares hope for sexual addiction recovery. Unashamed funds scholarships for people to go to retreats and receive therapy. Steve works in his private practice in Salt Lake City, at OnSite in Nashville Tennessee, and at the Oaks in San Diego California doing trauma intensives and workshops. His favorite event to speak at is the WarriorHeart Bootcamp every year. Steve is unofficially the biggest Leading Saints and "KF" fan! This is part 2 of a 2-part podcast discussion. Listen to Part 1 here. Highlights 0:30 How do I interview someone every week who is in therapy and dealing with addiction? Check in to see if the therapy is working or not. 4:50 How bishops can communicate with therapists. Bishops should get a consent form to be able to get information from the therapist about how the therapy is going. 15:30 How do bishops find a good therapist? Steve describes the different types of therapists and specialities. 26:18 Don’t refer a person to an agency. Refer them to a specific person. LDS Family Services is a great resource but it’s an agency. 30:00 It can be difficult to find a good therapist. However, therapists like to work with people that like to do the work. Reach out to the therapist you want to go to and show them that you are willing and ready to do the work. It might be worth it to get on a waiting list for a really good therapist. 34:40 What do you do with people that don’t want to do the work? The only thing you can do is invite. 36:55 Steve’s recommendation to all bishops is to have the person pay for at least part of the sessions, even if it’s only five dollars. 40:20 Two questions to ask your therapist. Make sure they are doing the work too and putting what they teach into practice. Do you currently go to therapy or have you been to therapy? What are you currently getting trained in? 41:30 Leaders are carrying the burdens and the huge weight of the ward. Bishops and other leaders should also be getting therapy. Steve challenges all bishops to find a good therapist and do at least three sessions. 43:20 How can a leader begin to understand the resources for intensive therapy? It can be very expensive but much more effective in some situations. 52:00 Steve explains value systems. A therapist should not try to change your value system and if they do you should pick a new one. Links Part 1 of this podcast UnashamedUnafraid.com WarriorHeart Bootcamp It’s Not Your Job to Fix Pornography Addiction | An Interview with Todd Olson and Steve Shields 6 Things I Wish Bishops Knew About Addiction | Guest Post by Steven Shields (Recovering Addict) “The Atonement Works for Me”: One Couple’s Recovery from Sexual Addiction Read the TRANSCRIPT of this podcast.

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0:00.0

Welcome to part two of this week's podcast.

0:04.0

So how do I know if this is effective with my member?

0:10.0

And also I have people like, so a question I get a lot is we just had a member go through a membership

0:17.0

council because of sexual sin. Clinically I would say they're struggling with the sexual addiction or sexual compulsive behavior, whatever it is, how do I meet with this person every week or every two, like what do I say?

0:30.0

Jesus loves you, Jesus loves you.

0:33.3

Jesus still loves you.

0:34.4

Sorry it was a hard week, right?

0:35.8

I feel awkward.

0:36.7

And also, I'm paying for this therapy,

0:38.8

or I know they're going to therapy.

0:40.2

How do I know it's effective?

0:41.5

Because this therapist is working with him over here the therapist might be seeing him twice as much as I am as a church leader and so how do I know what's going on and it's really simple

0:50.1

I can tell you the interview every time hey Hey, KF, how's it going? Hope, connection, however I'm going to do that. So, how's going to therapy with whoever you go to? Oh, it's good. What about it is good? What are you learning? What are you feeling? What are you experiencing in therapy? Tell me why this is working for you. And do you know what they're going to do? They're going to tell you.

1:12.0

Uh-huh. Oh my gosh I was totally learning

1:14.6

about this thing called the drama triangle where like it's when you're not really

1:18.5

sharing your true feelings but you're just like reacting bad. Oh, teach that to me. By the way as a bishop you want some free

1:24.6

education you want some free psycho ed you'll get it from your members.

1:27.4

Yeah. I had a bishop who I went through my process with he's like do you know how much

1:30.9

I've learned about sexual addiction because I sat and interviewed you?

1:33.6

Yeah. Because I told him, I'm like, this is what I learned in group therapy. I agreed with this. I didn't agree with this. This is what someone said. So just ask them. Just literally have them tell you about it and you will be inspired one to know how to

1:45.3

speak hope into them and how what's going on with them and then two you also be inspired

1:49.9

because the Lord will tell you, hey, that's working.

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