Hey folks and welcome to Typology, the show on which we explore the mystery of the human personality and the great human adventure all through the lens of the Enneagram.

My name is Anthony Skinner, your producer and co-host.

So last week in and I took some time to talk about how the Enneagram can be a helpful tool in therapy.

As we were really getting into the conversation, we decided to break it into two parts.

So this week, we're bringing you part two, which focuses more specifically on therapists, how they can use the Enneagram with clients and what to watch out for.

We'd love to hear your feedback after you listen,

so hit us up on Instagram with your comments.

So glad that you're here.

Hey, that's it for me, Anthony Skinner.

And now without any further ado, here is the man of the hour, Ian Crum. Ian Grom Let's take a minute

and turn the lens on the therapist

and how does knowing your own type

as a therapist help with countertransference?

Look at you throwing out the therapy words.

Whoa.

I did my research, man.

Countertransference.

Boom.

I mean, God, you've been a long time since I've heard that phrase, but it's a good one,

and we talked a lot about it in supervision when I was.

Anyway, let's just try and define what countertransferences for a second.

Countertransference, I make it, I mean, this may not be entirely eloquent, is the therapist's emotional, somatic, cognitive, and relational response to a client.

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