Part 2 of the Interview With Professor Sam Vaknin - Author of Malignant Self Love: Narcissism Revisited

Trauma & Narcissism Redefined

Caroline Strawson

Narcissisticabuse, Health & Fitness, Narcissist, Self-improvement, Education, Recovery, Mental Health, Trauma

4.8 • 701 Ratings

🗓️ 30 March 2021

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

This is part two of the fantastic interview with Professor Sam Vaknin. In this episode we talk about narcissistic abuse from a social perspective, and how we, as society members, deal with abusers and victims. We dive deep into the danger of labelling people, and discuss the idea of fluidity between the roles of victims and abusers.

What You Will Learn In This Episode:

- The counterproductive tendency of isolating trait behaviours, labelling and medicalising

- Regarding narcissism as a positive adaptation that has helped a child to survive

- Are we all a part of a colossal victim community?

- The differences in a relationship between narcissists and healthy people, and narcissists and codependents

- How the confirmation bias and the saviour mentality affects the victims of narcissist abuse

Accepting that many victims are never likely to abandon their abusers, Doctor Vaknin believes that people should be educated on self-defence, on how to create boundaries and react to abusive situations. Both the victim and abuser share the same source - they are children with wounded inner parts, utilising their survival tools.

Resources:

- Trauma and Recovery: The Aftermath of Violence--From Domestic Abuse to Political Terror by Judith Lewis Herman

- Malignant Self-Love: Narcissism Revisited by Sam Vaknin

- Connect with Professor Sam Vaknin on LinkedIn, Instagram, and YouTube

- Join my Facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/thriveafternarcissisticabuse

- Connect with me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/carolinestrawson/

Transcript

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0:00.0	Welcome to the narcissistic abuse recovery podcast. I'm Caroline Stawson and I'll be sharing with you
0:09.2	awareness, understanding and education about the devastating effects of narcissistic abuse to help you thrive.
0:16.8	I want you to know that I've been exactly where you are now and I believe you.
0:21.4	And this show is all about taking you from trauma to transformation.
0:30.3	So welcome to part two.
0:32.8	So you heard last week in the podcast, the beginning of my interview with Sam Backnan,
0:37.1	who is the author
0:38.0	of Malignant Self-Love, Narcissism Revisited, and holds a PhD in Philosophy and Physics and
0:43.8	Professor of Psychology. And we had such a long chat, a really long interview that I felt
0:50.3	just doing it all in one was probably too much on a podcast. So I wanted to be able to
0:57.3	split this into a series of three. So today is part two for you. And again, trigger warning,
1:04.4	there will be some things in here that you may find triggering. But remember, explore that.
1:13.2	Why do you feel that is triggering to you?
1:19.5	What is it highlighting in you when you feel that activation in your body? So enjoy part two.
1:25.7	And remember, the final part is next week. So when we talk about that, because obviously, if you think about those then, on the whole, as a society in general, you know, I know we've obviously got psychiatrists as well.
1:33.5	But from a psychology perspective then, from a diagnosis, those then that are victims of a narcissist and those who are a narcissist, how do we move forward in a society then?
1:48.7	How do we support those who've been words we use abused by a narcissist?
1:53.9	But then the narcissist doesn't necessarily think it's abuse, going back to the intention and
1:58.2	impact again.
1:59.5	So how do we do that?
2:00.7	Do we look for diagnosis? Do we look for diagnosis?
2:02.7	Do we look for a different way of looking at those who've been involved with a narcissist?
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