Part 2 of Johnnyswim: The Enneagram and Abner (Type 7) and Manager Jay King (Type 4) [S02-052]
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Ian Morgan Cron
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🗓️ 25 July 2019
⏱️ 55 minutes
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Summary
In part two of our interview with JOHNNYSWIM, Abner and Amanda's manager Jay King joins the conversation and shares how the Enneagram has impacted their personal and working relationship.
ABOUT JOHNNYSWIM
As a unit, they face life's ups, downs, highs, lows, trials, tribulations, tragedies, triumphs, and everything in between. They change, learn, and grow as one. However, Los Angeles band JOHNNYSWIM doesn't just seem like a family; it is a family. At the core, husband-and-wife—Abner Ramirez and Amanda Sudano—translate the memories, moments, and milestones on their journey into spirited, slick, and soulful anthems steeped in singer-songwriter tradition, yet amplified by alternative experimentation, rock energy, and pop ambition.
The music moves as the couple's life does, scrapbooking unforgettable experiences in melody like an eternal keepsake of their relationship.
In early 2017, JOHNNYSWIM commenced work on ideas for what would become their 2019 third full-length, Moonlight [Britannia Row Recordings/BMG]. Amidst a series of professional changes and Amanda's pregnancy with their second child, they kick-started the next chapter."
ABOUT MANAGER JASON "JAY" KING
Jason "Jay" King is the founder and owner of World Citizen Media and a twenty-year veteran of the music industry. He manages Los Angeles based duo JOHNNYSWIM, Propaganda, and Pop writer/artist TRELLA. World Citizen's core mission is to help BUILD, LAUNCH, and ACCELERATE meaningful projects, with strong foundations, that contribute good back into the world.
Jay's background includes working with renowned artists including Platinum-selling hip-hop group GRITS, 4th Avenue Jones, Hillsong United, Grammy award winner Israel Houghton, All Sons & Daughters, Fonzworth Bentley, Daniel Bashta, John Mark McMillan, Rhett Walker Band, and more. He has also worked alongside brands such as Tumi Luggage, Macy's, Fiat, General Motors, Southwest Airlines, St. Jude, and more in order to bring campaigns for his clients to life.
He held the title of VP of A&R positions for both Gotee Records (Universal Music Group) and Integrity Music (Sony BMG) before establishing World Citizen Media.
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| 0:00.0 | Greetings, typology listeners. Welcome back to our show upon which we explore the mystery |
| 0:09.5 | of the human personality through the lens of the NEA Graham. I'm here in typology studio |
| 0:15.9 | A, Nashville, Tennessee, with my executive producer, my lord, my leash, my handler. |
| 0:24.2 | Eat crown. How are you doing, brother? Anthony, I'm doing really, really well. |
| 0:27.3 | We have some very special guests in the studio today. We sure do. Yeah. This is the second |
| 0:31.7 | part of our two-shell episode with Amanda and Abner and now Jay King. Jay King. |
| 0:42.0 | There's Johnny Swim, Jay King. We're here to give you all the dirt. |
| 0:51.4 | You're in the frame for. Yes. You sigh when you said that. You kind of went, yeah. |
| 0:59.1 | Do you know the fours are all on this side of the room? Yeah. And I'm the only one actually |
| 1:04.2 | wearing colors. Yeah. You're all wearing black. I'm the only guy wearing colors. |
| 1:09.3 | What's up with that? Yeah. So on our first episode, we talked a lot about your relationship |
| 1:17.2 | as a seven and Amanda. Yeah. And that was really cool. And then it was so funny. Anthony |
| 1:22.9 | said it was more and man, you got to do a show with Jay and these guys and just sort of |
| 1:27.3 | like, you know, teasing out the professional relationship. It's definitely a marriage of |
| 1:32.1 | its own sort. I think there are days where they talk more than we do. And I'm like in the |
| 1:36.1 | house and he's just like, I'm on with Jay. And then he's gone for the rest of the day until |
| 1:40.4 | dinner. I remember the only thing I learned in music business class was the following. |
| 1:46.5 | When you pick a manager, it's like picking a spouse. It'll be the second closest relationship |
| 1:51.1 | in your entire life. And that's absolutely true. So I've got both my spouses here today. |
| 1:57.1 | Wow. You were telling the story. We were going to Mormon land. Today typology takes on |
| 2:05.3 | polyamorous. You were, Abner, yesterday we were talking a little bit about how you and Jay |
| 2:21.7 | first sort of begin to establish a professional relationship when you had that conversation |
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