Unless you're keep Richards.

Who might just be the Grim Reaper?

I don't know.

I don't think I look at what happened other other guitarists in that band and I'm wondering.

Yeah, yeah, okay.

Yeah, that's a freaking nature there.

Yeah. All right, so what, you know, and it was when Dustin said, hey, you know, you and I should catch up and when he, he tipped me off about the anniversary of Spencer's death because I just

terrible by keeping up with this stuff and and I sat down I listened to some of the show,

and then I had a stop because it was like really

setting me off in a different trajectory

that I needed to be on because they really have to focus and it really, you know, I mean, when I listen to show, I listen to it like a consumer, like somebody else will be listening to it. I'm not listening to my voice and things like that.

So I started to think, you know, things are worse now than they were when you and I talked.

It's absolute chaos. Nobody seems to care about anything. I mean, when I say nobody, nobody in charge. chaos nobody

in charge. It's in charge. It's like not at all. It's uh, it's lawlessness.

It's it's Wild West stuff and then you know for me personally we have to still live I

supposedly have to still live in this little box where I have to listen to all the

laws and rules and pay all these fees and taxes and you see what's going on it's just

total Thunderdome and then what happens to yourself and other families it's like what is going on here and you know you're

in the thick of it in Texas and what is happening down there with Governor

Abbott and everything else from your

perspective. From my perspective I personally think Abbott is mostly Kabuki

Theater. Yeah I agree with that.

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