Part 1: How to Hug a Transgender Latter-day Saint | An Interview with Katherine Herrmann
Leading Saints Podcast
Leading Saints
4.8 • 1.2K Ratings
🗓️ 6 May 2023
⏱️ 30 minutes
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Summary
Katherine Herrmann lists all things Apple, new wave/alternative music, and fantasy/science fiction among her fandoms. She works as a principal software engineer/architect for a video streaming company, and recently published TransLucent: How I put off my natural man and found a spiritual woman. At church, she has served as secretary for deacons, teachers, and priests quorums, as a Sunday School and elders quorum teacher, elders quorum secretary, ward executive secretary, newsletter editor, and assistant ward clerk—historian. She has also hugged a lot of people at general conference, and bore her testimony in over 40 wards in three years. This is Part 1 of a 2-part conversation. Listen to Part 2 here.
Highlights
02:00 Kurt introduces the topic of transgenderism and what people can expect from this podcast episode. 05:30 Katherine is introduced and she shares her experience with church leaders. 09:15 Katherine shares her background and the beginning of her story. She was born biologically male but since she was a young child she felt female. 14:10 What is gender dysphoria? Katherine describes how it has felt for her. 18:15 Katherine’s teenage years. Always an outsider and having different interests. 22:30 Transgender youth and transition surgeries. 24:50 Is your child really transgender? Based on her personal research and experience, Katherine believes there is a huge difference between kids that come out as transgender when they are 3-4 years old and kids that come out between 10-12 years old.
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| 0:00.0 | Ah, thank you for the gentle press of the play button as we get into another episode of the |
| 0:07.4 | leading Saints podcast. |
| 0:09.2 | My name is Kurt Frankham and I'm the host of this podcast. |
| 0:12.4 | Now if you're new here, let me give you the rundown. |
| 0:14.0 | Leading Saints is a non-profit organization dedicated to helping Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. |
| 0:21.0 | We started as a blog in 2010 then developed into a podcast in 2014 and became |
| 0:27.3 | a 501c3 nonprofit in 2016 and since then we create various forms of content like this podcast where we talk about the cross section of leadership and being a Latter-day Saint. |
| 0:40.0 | So this episode that you're about to hear is a good example of the type of content we produce. |
| 0:45.0 | As I've had opportunity to meet many people in this listening audience, |
| 0:49.0 | one thing I've heard several times is that we are never afraid to talk about any specific topic. |
| 0:56.0 | I hope that's the case because we recognize that church leaders don't always get to pick |
| 1:01.0 | the conversation topics that they have with those they lead. |
| 1:04.4 | So hopefully we can offer a model of how to discuss difficult topics on this podcast |
| 1:09.0 | that will then in turn give you more confidence to step into whatever tough conversation finds you on your journey of leadership. |
| 1:15.8 | Now in 2023 it is almost impossible for leaders to avoid conversations related to the LGBT community. |
| 1:22.8 | Some prefer the acronym SSA for same sex attraction. |
| 1:26.7 | And let me quickly insert here that if you're looking for |
| 1:29.8 | as many resources related to LGBT SSA Latter-day Saint experiences, I encourage you to |
| 1:35.0 | to consider two things. |
| 1:37.0 | Check out our LGBT Saints virtual library, |
| 1:40.0 | which you can listen to at no cost at leading saints.org |
| 1:43.4 | slash 14. Also check out the upcoming North Star conference |
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