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The Gateway: Teal Swan

Part 1: Catalyst

The Gateway: Teal Swan

Gizmodo

Society & Culture

4.71.4K Ratings

🗓️ 30 May 2018

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

In April 2017 YouTube recommended reporter Jennings Brown watch a self-help video from Teal Swan, a spiritual guru with a global online following. He’d spend the next year trying to understand whether or not she’s dangerous. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

A warning before we start, this episode includes discussions about suicide.

0:05.0

So at the time Leslie was dancing with us, once a year we would put on a huge

0:17.8

Swaray event and this is what this filming is.

0:23.2

I'm sitting at Joyce Siler's kitchen table in Logan, Utah.

0:26.6

It's a university town surrounded by mountains.

0:29.4

Joyce is on her laptop watching her first performance

0:31.8

with her belly dance troop.

0:33.6

She points out the woman dancing right in front of her.

0:36.0

It's her best friend, Leslie Wainsguard.

0:39.2

Who is one?

0:40.2

Leslie's over here on the right. Far right?

0:43.0

Far right.

0:44.0

Leslie's on the far right.

0:45.0

So when you see that, what are you thinking?

0:47.0

I think of how we prepared to go out on stage

0:52.0

and how Leslie was like going, it'll be okay, let's make

0:56.0

sure everything's taken care of, everything's pinned, everything's in place, you'll

1:01.2

do fine.

1:02.2

Leslie was one of the troops leaders at the time.

1:04.9

They all followed her steps on stage.

1:07.1

But Joyce and another dancer, Bobby,

1:09.3

they followed her off stage, too.

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