I'm back to the Ten Blogs podcast. This is Brian Anderson, the editor of City Journal.

Joining me on today's show is Naomi Schaefer

Riley. Naomi's a senior fellow at both the American Enterprise Institute and the Independent

Women's Forum, and she's a contributor to Desert News. She writes regularly for City Journal

about philanthropy, education, and child welfare.

Her work has also appeared all over the place, Wall Street Journal, New York Times, and many other

publications.

She's the author of several books, including No Way to Treat a Child, How the Foster Care System,

Family Courts, and racial activists are wrecking young lives. Today,

in fact, we're going to discuss her recent work on drug use and child welfare. So Naomi,

thanks very much for joining us. Thanks for having me, Brian. So the idea that medical professionals

should not test mothers or infants for drugs, even if they have reason to

believe that the child has been exposed is gaining ground. Many states do not mandate drug testing

of parents and newborns, but testing enables medical professionals to identify babies who might be at risk of maltreatment.

And I should say that this is not testing mothers or infants for drugs because of racial

consideration. So I wonder how big a phenomenon is this? And it just seems crazy to me that

you're going to be putting children at risk because of

what is, you know, a kind of spurious racial ideology here.

Sure.

So the story recently sort of entered the consciousness of a lot of the American public because

Mass General Hospital announced last week that they would be limiting testing and also that they

would be not automatically reporting families to child protective services if a mother, a new mother,

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