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Trump will be out his family and friends in the way out?

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My name is Renata Mariati. I'm a former federal prosecutor,

a practicing lawyer and a legal analyst.

And I'm joined by my friend Patty Vasquez, the host of the Patty Vasquez show,

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So Patty, I have to say, you know, a lot of the legal news

since Trump lost in the election

has been focused on his various lawsuits and legal maneuverings.

And I have to say, I will say this is a legal analyst.

Those lawsuits are not worth the paper that they're printed on.

So instead of focusing our attention on something that won't matter, I thought it made sense to focus

to something that does matter, which is Trump's potential to pardon his friends as associates.

There's been reports that he's weighing potential pardons of his children,

children, Jerry Kushner, Rudy Giuliani,

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