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My name's Renato Mariati. I'm a former federal prosecutor, a practicing lawyer, and a legal analyst.

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Just click the support link at the top of the page. Well, Patty, it is good to be back here with you.

It's been a little while.

It is really hard to tell time anymore, so when you schedule these, I'm like,

oh, good. I'd something to put on my

calendar somewhere to be in my basement. You know I'll tell you it is this has been a difficult time for

everybody I know I definitely have gotten stir crazy at times being at home.

But I really do feel a sense of hope now that we have the vaccine on the way. I'm hoping that we have the vaccine on the way of hoping that we're going to see an end to this

pandemic sometime in the future we have the beginning of the end here.

Yeah I agree you know but there's so much that's unknown and we're, you know, opening up schools again in Chicago just as we're still seeing so many ICU beds filled and, you know, daily death toll is, it's still, you know, really hard to imagine putting teachers and kids and support workers in that situation.

So it's hard to imagine the end of this even though we have the

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