meta_pixel
Tapesearch Logo
Log in
Short Wave

Parasites Have Haunted Us For Millions Of Years

Short Wave

NPR

Daily News, Nature, Life Sciences, Astronomy, Science, News

4.76K Ratings

🗓️ 24 October 2025

⏱️ 16 minutes

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

Parasites have roamed the Earth for a long time. They were here before the dinosaurs: The oldest fossils are more than 500 million years old. Today on the show, Regina G. Barber speaks with paleontologists Karma Nanglu and Danielle de Carle about a mysterious fossil called the “Riddler,” and the oldest-ever leech fossil. They share stories of the enduring power of parasitism through the ages and why the clues to prehistoric mysteries may be tucked in a basement.


Interested in more science behind rare fossils? Email us your question at [email protected].


Listen to every episode of Short Wave sponsor-free and support our work at NPR by signing up for Short Wave+ at plus.npr.org/shortwave.

Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices

NPR Privacy Policy

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0

Thriving in the face of adversity. That's something the incredible species of our world do every day.

0:06.0

I'm Chris Morgan. Join me on the Wild as we explore stories of hope and resilience in nature,

0:12.0

and what they can teach us about ourselves and each other. Listen to the Wild from KU.O.W. in Seattle, part of the NPR Network.

0:19.0

Hey, short waivers, Regina Barber here.

0:22.7

If you're looking for a free, quick way to support us, I have an answer.

0:27.3

Right now, on the app or platform where you're listening, leave us a rating or a review.

0:32.6

It really helps new listeners find our show.

0:34.8

And we really do read what people write, like Andy M. 144,

0:39.8

who at the end of last month said, I always learned so much from this podcast, and I'd love to share the fun

0:45.1

facts I learn with people I know. Thanks, Andy. And everyone else listening, embrace your inner Andy.

0:52.1

While you're listening, take a second, leave us a review, and

0:55.7

share us with your friends. Okay, on to our show.

1:01.4

You're listening to Shortwave from NPR.

1:10.2

Parasites scare me.

1:12.3

I think of corticeps, the parasitic fungus that inspired the video game turned TV series, The Last of Us, the one that in real life bursts out of the head of ants and controls them when they're dead.

1:23.8

Or I think of people finding a tapeworm in their bodies after eating raw meat.

1:29.1

Those have haunted me since childhood.

1:31.3

And even more unsettling, I was reminded recently by a paleontologist that parasites have been around a lot longer than I had thought.

1:39.2

We have fossils as old as about 515, 516 million years old that have evidence of parasites on them.

1:46.1

And these are kind of small, worm-like animals, building tubes on top of these shelled creatures

1:50.6

called brachio pods in order to basically steal the food that they're drawing into their mouths.

1:55.7

Carmen Nanglu's that paleontologist.

...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from NPR, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of NPR and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.

Copyright © Tapesearch 2025.