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This is Nick Estes, co-host of the Red Nation podcast and we have a special

guest and interview for today dealing with the recent repudiation of the doctrine of discovery by the Vatican, which happened in March of 2023 of this year.

But for those of you who don't know what the doctrine of discovery is, most people don't, but it's a series of 15th century papal bulls that were issued to essentially justify Christian nations' conquest of both Africa and the Americas.

And this was later codified within a series of federal court cases at the Supreme Court known as the Marshall trilogy as early as 1823 in Cherokee Nation v Georgia when Chief Justice John Marshall essentially justified the taking of

native land and the removal of native people as an inherited right by the United States from this 15th century papable.

You know, and just to remind everyone, the United States at this time and currently is not a Catholic nation.

You know, it's not a theocratic nation essentially according to its own constitution.

But nonetheless, as a sort of Protestant judge, you know, John Marshall needed to find a reason why the United States takes land and claims ownership over land.

And so essentially he, you in the in the legal tradition they

do they do a thing where it's called sui generis which is Latin for essentially

unique ruling but you know in layman's terms, he made up stuff. He made up a doctrine, he made up a justification that has become the foundation of federal Indian law as we know it today. And as recently as 2006, this doctrine has been invoked by the Supreme Court and this was invoked in a ruling by Justice Bader Ginsburg.

So this is not something that is in the past, it's not something that is ancient, it is very much alive and present, and we have a special

guest today who is Chris Peters, and I'll allow Chris to introduce himself. He is an elder with the Seventh Generation Fund, but go ahead Chris.

Well, thank you and I'm pleased to be on the podcast here and talk about this important issue. My name is Chris Peters. I'm

Yurok and Kedrick Indian from Northern California. I've been with the Seventh

Generation Fund for Indigenous Peoples now for 34 years and have witnessed the

ab and flow of native philanthropy over the years, you know, all of which relates directly to the people bulls

that unfortunately or the Christian domination or white supremacy if you

will and you know certainly the the foundation was established in 1977 and formerly incorporated in 1984.

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