Panic! In The Federal Judiciary [TEASER]
5-4
Prologue Projects
4.5 • 3.7K Ratings
🗓️ 28 October 2025
⏱️ 5 minutes
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Summary
You know things are really bad when federal judges–historically an extremely reticent group–are sounding the alarm about the chaos and confusion the Supreme Court is reaping these days. Never fear, Amy Coney Barrett is here to remind all of us that everything is fine, because the shadow docket is not a big deal, originalism is fun and interesting, and she's a real human mother.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey everyone. This is Leon from Prologue Projects. |
| 0:08.0 | On this subscriber-only episode of 5 to 4, Peter, Riannon, and Michael are talking about growing |
| 0:14.2 | concern among some federal judges over how the Supreme Court is operating under the Trump |
| 0:18.7 | administration. |
| 0:20.6 | The New York Times recently sent a survey to hundreds of federal judges across the country |
| 0:24.6 | and got responses from nearly 50 of them, saying that the Supreme Court's use of the |
| 0:29.6 | emergency docket has been inappropriate. |
| 0:31.6 | Lower court judges appointed by both Democrats and Republicans told the Times that |
| 0:36.6 | the court's reliance on |
| 0:38.0 | unexplained emergency rulings has created confusion and damaged public trust in judiciary. |
| 0:43.9 | It was an extraordinary show of disapproval that would have been unthinkable just a few years |
| 0:47.8 | ago. Defending the Supreme Court on the public stage has been its second newest member, |
| 0:53.1 | Amy Coney Barrett, whose new book has |
| 0:55.3 | served as an occasion for a press tour that the hosts have found deeply impressive and persuasive. |
| 1:01.0 | Just kidding. This is 5 to 4, a podcast about how much the Supreme Court sucks. |
| 1:21.0 | Welcome to 5 to 4, where we dissect and analyze the Supreme Court cases that have destroyed our nation, like Donald Trump destroying the east wing of the White House. |
| 1:30.3 | I'm Peter. I'm here with Riannon. Hey. And Michael. Yeah, I just saw the photos like just an hour ago and was like, fuck. Like it's really like... |
| 1:31.3 | What's this guy doing? |
| 1:33.3 | They took a fucking wrecking ball to the White House. |
| 1:37.3 | How on the nose. |
| 1:39.3 | No, sorry, we're gonna pretend this isn't sick. |
| 1:41.3 | We're gonna pretend this isn't awesome. So originally the reporting was like they're doing like just a tiny bit of demolition and then they're going to build out the ballroom. And then it was like actually it's the entire East Wing. By the weekend, the entire East Wing of the White House will be gone. Yeah, you know it's every boy's dream. To destroy the White House? 100%. Right? Every boy's dream, you roll in the wrecking ball. You roll in the crane, the bulldozer. You watch it bring down a building. Yeah. To destroy a building and then make it more flamboyant. Yes. Is every young man's dream. |
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