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Garcetti v. Ceballos

5-4

Prologue Projects

Government, News, News Commentary

4.53.7K Ratings

🗓️ 4 November 2025

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

The Supreme Court tramples upon your most sacred right: the right to complain about your co-workers.


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Transcript

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0:00.0

We'll hear argument next in 04473, Garcetti v. Sabios.

0:09.7

Hey, everyone. This is Leon from Prologue Projects. On this episode of 5 to 4, Peter,

0:16.2

Riannon, and Michael are talking about Garcetti v. Sabios, a case from the early 2000s about the

0:22.2

free speech rights of government employees. Richard Sabios, a prosecutor in Los Angeles,

0:27.8

discovered that a sheriff's deputy had misrepresented facts in an affidavit that had been

0:31.8

used to obtain a search warrant. Sabios wrote an internal memo to his supervisors,

0:37.3

recommending that the case be dismissed.

0:39.6

The memo was ignored, and afterwards, Sabios was demoted and denied a promotion.

0:45.3

Sabios sued, arguing that his employer had retaliated against him for exercising his First

0:50.0

Amendment rights.

0:51.7

But the Supreme Court ruled that when government employees speak as part of

0:55.2

their official job duties, that speech is not protected by the First Amendment, even if it exposes

1:00.8

corruption or misconduct. This is 5 to 4, a podcast about how much the Supreme Court sucks.

1:23.4

Welcome to 5 to 4, where we dissect and analyze the Supreme Court cases that have rat fucked our nation like the media is trying to rat fuck Zoran Mamdani.

1:27.4

I'm Peter. I'm here with Michael.

1:29.5

Hey, everybody. Henry Annan.

1:31.4

Hello, big election coming up.

1:33.9

Election Day, don't forget to vote.

1:36.0

Election day, as this drops, don't forget to vote for Andrew Cuomo, lest we all fall under Sharia Long, folks.

1:47.8

I'm a Slewa diehard. Slewa, Slewa, how's it pronounced? I don't know.

1:52.9

I believe it's Slewa, although, yeah, I've never really known.

1:56.8

If you want someone to finish Eric Adams' job of reading New York of rats,

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