Panic Defense

Criminal

Vox Media Podcast Network

Society & Culture, True Crime

4.7 • 39.4K Ratings

🗓️ 6 December 2019

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

In 1995, two men filmed an episode of the daytime talk show, The Jenny Jones Show. A few days later, one of the men was dead. The shooter later claimed he’d committed the murder “in a panic that he was being falsely accused or identified as a gay person.” We speak with Cynthia Lee, Carsten Andresen, and Paul Howard about so-called “gay panic” and “trans panic” defenses, and we discuss the murders of Scott Amedure, Islan Nettles, Larry King, Ahmed Dabarran, and Matthew Shepard. Thanks to Thomas Curry, who helped co-produce this episode. Say hello on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram. Sign up for our occasional newsletter, The Accomplice. Follow the show and review us on Apple Podcasts: iTunes.com/CriminalShow. We also make This is Love and Phoebe Reads a Mystery. Artwork by Julienne Alexander. Check out our online shop. Episode transcripts are posted on our website. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:40.0	Now which of these ways would you choose to reveal your secret crush on someone?
0:45.0	A would you write that person a letter?
0:47.0	B would you tell the person in private in case he rejects you?
0:51.0	Or C would you tell that person that you're gay and you hope he is on national television.
0:55.0	On March 6th, 1995, the day
0:59.0	on March 6th, 1995, the daytime talk show host Jenny Jones filmed this episode about secret crushes.
1:08.5	People were invited to come on the show to learn on television who had a crush on them.
1:14.4	One of the guests was 32-year-old Scott Amador.
1:18.0	His friend Donna Riley appeared on the show with him.
1:21.0	Want you now to meet Donna and Scott.
1:23.7	Now Donna has been helping Scott pursue his secret crush on John.
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1:30.6	How bad is the crush?
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